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dlm34077

Joined: 10 Feb 2007
Posts: 115
Location: AZ

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: cable lengths

You might want to special order some cables from aircraft spruce. They make a Teflon core version about $200 each, but you will not have to change them since the internal cores do not melt and become stiff and unmovable. Also add 1-2” to Vans length, better an inch too much than an inch too little depending on your routing. It is a pain to change a cable with the engine in place. Be sure and use the stainless/aluminum fixture to better seal the   

FF heat out of the cabin.  

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Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:57 pm Post subject: cable lengths

I still use the Van’s cables but I have always run them inside a small diameter fire sleeve where they pass under the engine – same with the alternator and starter cables.  This has worked well over 14 years.



Carl

 

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Subject: cable lengths

 

You might want to special order some cables from aircraft spruce. They make a Teflon core version about $200 each, but you will not have to change them since the internal cores do not melt and become stiff and unmovable. Also add 1-2” to Vans length, better an inch too much than an inch too little depending on your routing. It is a pain to change a cable with the engine in place. Be sure and use the stainless/aluminum fixture to better seal the 

FF heat out of the cabin.

 



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:00 pm Post subject: cable lengths

This is from my RV-14 install that I       just did, it's basically what Carl is talking about.

       I got silver firesleeve just like you use on hoses.  1/2" fit well       over the cable.

       Sealed the ends with high temp RTV.

       http://www.myrv14.com/buildlog/20160428/RV14160420-173853-076.jpg

       

       Then on Amazon is this 3/4" silver wrap that says it's good for       1000F continuous,

       and 2000F intermittent if I remember right.  The silver does a       good job of

       rejecting the heat.

       

       I wish I would have done this on my original RV-10 install.

       

       Tim

       

       On 5/13/2016 6:54 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

     

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I still use the             Van’s cables but I have always run them inside a small             diameter fire sleeve where they pass under the engine – same             with the alternator and starter cables.  This has worked             well over 14 years.         



             Carl         

                                  

From:                 owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)                 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On                   Behalf Of David

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You             might want to special order some cables from aircraft             spruce. They make a Teflon core version about $200 each, but             you will not have to change them since the internal cores do             not melt and become stiff and unmovable. Also add 1-2” to             Vans length, better an inch too much than an inch too little             depending on your routing. It is a pain to change a cable             with the engine in place. Be sure and use the             stainless/aluminum fixture to better seal the          

FF             heat out of the cabin.         

                                                                  

                                               

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Lenny Iszak

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Posts: 270

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: cable lengths

Just removed my cables. They are all sticky, but the cover at the end of the mixture cable is melted. The next set will be firesleeved as Tim suggested.



Van's cables would have worked just fine if i would have protected them from heat. They used to be nice and smooth for about 20-30 hours.



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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:35 pm Post subject: cable lengths

Tim



Do you have any photos of your fire sleeved mixture, throttle and/or pitch cables please?



Would you recommend doing all three?



Warm regards



Patrick



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 Just removed my cables. They are all sticky, but the cover at the end of the mixture cable is melted. The next set will be firesleeved as Tim suggested.

 

 Van's cables would have worked just fine if i would have protected them from heat. They used to be nice and smooth for about 20-30 hours.

 

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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:39 pm Post subject: cable lengths

Please disregard my previous email Tim, thank you for the image.

Have you fire sleeved all three cables?



Warm regards



Patrick

On 14 May 2016, at 10:59, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		                     This is from my RV-14 install that I       just did, it's basically what Carl is talking about.

       I got silver firesleeve just like you use on hoses.  1/2" fit well       over the cable.

       Sealed the ends with high temp RTV.

       http://www.myrv14.com/buildlog/20160428/RV14160420-173853-076.jpg

       

       Then on Amazon is this 3/4" silver wrap that says it's good for       1000F continuous,

       and 2000F intermittent if I remember right.  The silver does a       good job of

       rejecting the heat.

       

       I wish I would have done this on my original RV-10 install.

       

       Tim

       

       On 5/13/2016 6:54 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

     

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		                       v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} <![endif]-->         <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->                

I still use the             Vanâ€™s cables but I have always run them inside a small             diameter fire sleeve where they pass under the engine â€“ same             with the alternator and starter cables.  This has worked             well over 14 years.         



             Carl         

                                  

From:                 owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)                 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On                   Behalf Of David

                 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:33 PM

                 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

                 Subject: cable lengths           

         

         

          

You             might want to special order some cables from aircraft             spruce. They make a Teflon core version about $200 each, but             you will not have to change them since the internal cores do             not melt and become stiff and unmovable. Also add 1-2â€ to             Vans length, better an inch too much than an inch too little             depending on your routing. It is a pain to change a cable             with the engine in place. Be sure and use the             stainless/aluminum fixture to better seal the          

FF             heat out of the cabin.         

                                                                                                   

                                               

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:58 am Post subject: cable lengths

On the RV10 I believe I did 2 or 3'of them.  I can't remember off hand.  I would probably do any of them that come within 8-12" of the exhaust.  It can't hurt but may help just for longevity:  on the RV14 I am doing I did them all for sure.

Tim





On May 16, 2016, at 1:35 AM, Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au (rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Please disregard my previous email Tim, thank you for the image.

Have you fire sleeved all three cables?



Warm regards



Patrick

On 14 May 2016, at 10:59, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		                     This is from my RV-14 install that I       just did, it's basically what Carl is talking about.

       I got silver firesleeve just like you use on hoses.  1/2" fit well       over the cable.

       Sealed the ends with high temp RTV.

       http://www.myrv14.com/buildlog/20160428/RV14160420-173853-076.jpg

       

       Then on Amazon is this 3/4" silver wrap that says it's good for       1000F continuous,

       and 2000F intermittent if I remember right.  The silver does a       good job of

       rejecting the heat.

       

       I wish I would have done this on my original RV-10 install.

       

       Tim

       

       On 5/13/2016 6:54 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

     

      	  Quote: 	
		                       v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} <![endif]-->         <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->                

I still use the             Vanâ€™s cables but I have always run them inside a small             diameter fire sleeve where they pass under the engine â€“ same             with the alternator and starter cables.  This has worked             well over 14 years.         



             Carl         

                                  

From:                 owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)                 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On                   Behalf Of David

                 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:33 PM

                 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

                 Subject: cable lengths           

         

         

          

You             might want to special order some cables from aircraft             spruce. They make a Teflon core version about $200 each, but             you will not have to change them since the internal cores do             not melt and become stiff and unmovable. Also add 1-2â€ to             Vans length, better an inch too much than an inch too little             depending on your routing. It is a pain to change a cable             with the engine in place. Be sure and use the             stainless/aluminum fixture to better seal the          

FF             heat out of the cabin.         

                                                                                                   

                                               

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