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william(at)wbliss.co.uk
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:06 am Post subject: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

Hello all - Advice/experience please



I am planning on using cut down wings for preventing the fuselage 

rocking from side to side on the monowheel trailer.



I would get a pair of u/s wings, cut them off just outboard of the inner 

rib and make attachment points for a strap (or elastic bungee chord) to 

go down and attach to the trailer frame. These short stubby wings would 

attach to the fuselage in the same way as the flying wings attach.



Does this seem like a good idea? My slight concern is that the forces on 

the fusalage attachment points with road use may be greater than the 

forces they were designed for in flight. I would have thought this 

method has been considered before.



William Bliss G-WUFF

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JonSmith

Joined: 21 May 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

Hi William, sounds clever!  I am totally unqualified to comment on the wisdom or otherwise of using the aircraft fittings for purposes other than their designed use.

Just a couple of thoughts, would another set of "wings" fit straight onto your aircraft?  You might end up spending a lot of time and effort repositioning the front and rear wing pins etc to match yours?



I trailer and solo rig mine every time I fly - I just use a ratchet type luggage strap that I pass through the fuselage where the wing spars go through.  I arrange it to pass over the tufnol rigging guides then vertically down each side where each end of the strap attaches onto the trailer side frame using the strap's built in metal hooks. (Around the frame and looped back on itself).

I use an old broom stick trimmed to length with a small spike on the end to pass the end of the strap through the fuselage where I can then catch it the other side.  I tighten it down with the ratchet to compress the suspension block just enough so that it will not bounce up and down in transit; as such the fuselage is held absolutely rock steady.  I always release the tension after transit so as not to prematurely permanently deform the rubber block!

Very quick and simple, the strap cost about £5.  I've done this for 13 years now with no problems.

Jon

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spcialeffects

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

Hi william. I am building a mono but have built a dolly to hold the fuselage which is on wheels and can be wheeled on and off the trailer and also holds it while in transit. What you could do is instead of looking for another set of wings is to get some mdf wood the same thickness as the spar and make spars to slot through the the fuselage and then secure them as you say, with the added option to connect up the wing pin connections should you wish.

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

The factory trailer was made to grab and support the fuselage by the landing gear.I think it is well thought out as you could do damage supporting it elsewhere.Just my 2 cents.

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Fred Klein

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:54 pm Post subject: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

William…I shared your concerns…and I was particularly concerned about the stability of the fuselage when removing and installing the wings…the attached photos show the FG covered foam blocks I fabricated to do so…all in all, a small and easy job…I made the blocks to be removable, thinking they would be problematic when rolling the plane on and off the trailer, however, I’ve found that raising the tail  creates the required clearance. While in transit, I use a rachet strap to keep the fuselage from moving.

Fred



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--> Europa-List message posted by: William Bliss <william(at)wbliss.co.uk (william(at)wbliss.co.uk)>Hello all - Advice/experience pleaseI am planning on using cut down wings for preventing the fuselage rocking from side to side on the monowheel trailer.I would get a pair of u/s wings, cut them off just outboard of the inner rib and make attachment points for a strap (or elastic bungee chord) to go down and attach to the trailer frame. These short stubby wings would attach to the fuselage in the same way as the flying wings attach.Does this seem like a good idea? My slight concern is that the forces on the fusalage attachment points with road use may be greater than the forces they were designed for in flight. I would have thought this method has been considered before.William Bliss G-WUFFhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-Listhttp://wiki.matronics.com

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clivesutton

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:53 am Post subject: Re: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

Hello William,



I was also a bit concerned about the roll axis stability of my in-build mono in its trailer.  My solution shown in the attached pic - a piece of original mono classic fuel filler hose bolted through to the top of the sling arm and wrapped in peel ply to stop the black rubber marking the fuselage.  



Once loaded, it lightly touches the fuselage side in the vicinity of the forward lift pin mounting area and helps to keep it upright as the fuselage moves side to side.  



The blue foam blocks under the slings are to counter my paranoia about them breaking in transit - which could do all sorts of expensive damage to the wing pin sockets glued into the wing spar if they were to be twisted/rotated against the trailer spar location bolt . . .



Clive

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:42 am Post subject: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

Hello William,     

this simple solution has worked for me nicely years.     

See attached pics.

          

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       Hello all - Advice/experience please       

       

       I am planning on using cut down wings for preventing the fuselage       rocking from side to side on the monowheel trailer.       

       

       I would get a pair of u/s wings, cut them off just outboard of the       inner rib and make attachment points for a strap (or elastic       bungee chord) to go down and attach to the trailer frame. These       short stubby wings would attach to the fuselage in the same way as       the flying wings attach.       

       

       Does this seem like a good idea? My slight concern is that the       forces on the fusalage attachment points with road use may be       greater than the forces they were designed for in flight. I would       have thought this method has been considered before.       

       

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SPURPURA

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Wings for monowheel trailer stability

That is a very nice trailer!

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