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Advice please,, On the CJ-6A, whats the minimum and max oil quantities do most of you run your engines comfortably with,, minimum levels before adding a couple quarts,,, Thanks David
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Well here come the opinions. Most of the guys I know that fly the Housai say their engines on average burn 1 quart/hr. From my personal experience on my engine that is correct. The minimum is seven (7) Ltrs. I have the standard 40 gal tanks so I am looking for fuel every 2 hours of flight time. So if I start out at 9 then I'm down to the minimum of 7 when I land for fuel. I know on my engine when I put anything over 9-10 Ltrs it magically disappears!!! Sooooo, my contribution is ..... keep it at 9 Ltrs. In the past, I would have topped to 12 Ltrs on a long trip so I would not have to carry spare oil but again, the oil just magically disappeares!!!! So now I top it off at 9 Ltrs. I made an oil storage area and have 7 quarts of oil and 1 quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to add to my fuel when I'm on the road. Oh my, I think I've opened up a discussion on the value of using fuel additives!!!! Got to mow the runway. I'm outta here...... On Jul 19, 2016 11:25 AM, "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | --> Yak-List message posted by: "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)>
Advice please,, On the CJ-6A, whats the minimum and max oil quantities do most of you run your engines comfortably with,, minimum levels before adding a couple quarts,,, Thanks David
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Greg, you're funny...but correct about the can of worms on additives. I thought for sure Jill's comments this morning about using MMO was going to spark some kick backs.
To the question at hand, Greg is correct in all that he said. When I first purchased my CJ I would keep the oil level at 12 on the dip stick (reminder, it measures liters not quarts) and like Greg's experience, a liter or two would just disappear. I've since learned to keep it b/w 9 and 10 on short local flights and start out with 11 on the longer XC flights... especially in the summer as I want just a little more cooling and lubrication on climb out than required in the winter. Always carry a few quarts with you even if you don't think you'll need it...
Cheers,
JB
PS. Greg and Bob... Let's be sure to link up at OSH. I think we are the only three ole WOCs in the Red Star community, so I have something that will bring back lots of good old WOC memories.
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Subject: Re: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine
Well here come the opinions. Most of the guys I know that fly the Housai say their engines on average burn 1 quart/hr. From my personal experience on my engine that is correct. The minimum is seven (7) Ltrs. I have the standard 40 gal tanks so I am looking for fuel every 2 hours of flight time. So if I start out at 9 then I'm down to the minimum of 7 when I land for fuel. I know on my engine when I put anything over 9-10 Ltrs it magically disappears!!! Sooooo, my contribution is ..... keep it at 9 Ltrs. In the past, I would have topped to 12 Ltrs on a long trip so I would not have to carry spare oil but again, the oil just magically disappeares!!!! So now I top it off at 9 Ltrs. I made an oil storage area and have 7 quarts of oil and 1 quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to add to my fuel when I'm on the road. Oh my, I think I've opened up a discussion on the value of using fuel additives!!!! Got to mow the runway. I'm outta here...... On Jul 19, 2016 11:25 AM, "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Advice please,, On the CJ-6A, whats the minimum and max oil quantities do most of you run your engines comfortably with,, minimum levels before adding a couple quarts,,, Thanks David
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine |
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Opinions count for a New B, don't ask, won't learn, I know its not exactly by the book question a manual response, I call it a good interpretation from knowledge and experience you guys have, Thanks, Greg, JB, & Terry ,,,, David
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William Halverson
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Try Microlon ... my Yak55 burned less oil after I did that one time treatment.
Typos courtesy of Siri
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Well here come the opinions. Most of the guys I know that fly the Housai say their engines on average burn 1 quart/hr. From my personal experience on my engine that is correct. The minimum is seven (7) Ltrs. I have the standard 40 gal tanks so I am looking for fuel every 2 hours of flight time. So if I start out at 9 then I'm down to the minimum of 7 when I land for fuel. I know on my engine when I put anything over 9-10 Ltrs it magically disappears!!! Sooooo, my contribution is ..... keep it at 9 Ltrs. In the past, I would have topped to 12 Ltrs on a long trip so I would not have to carry spare oil but again, the oil just magically disappeares!!!! So now I top it off at 9 Ltrs. I made an oil storage area and have 7 quarts of oil and 1 quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to add to my fuel when I'm on the road. Oh my, I think I've opened up a discussion on the value of using fuel additives!!!! Got to mow the runway. I'm outta here...... On Jul 19, 2016 11:25 AM, "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine |
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works well on your car as well, and your guns
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:42 pm Post subject: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine |
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Where do u buy it and how much do u use?
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works well on your car as well, and your guns
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Anyone else have any experience with Microlon, particularly in our round motors ? JB
From: "William Halverson" <william(at)netpros.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:05:53 PM
Subject: Re: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine
Try Microlon ... my Yak55 burned less oil after I did that one time treatment.
Typos courtesy of Siri
On Jul 19, 2016, at 14:33, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22(at)gmail.com (clouddog22(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Well here come the opinions. Most of the guys I know that fly the Housai say their engines on average burn 1 quart/hr. From my personal experience on my engine that is correct. The minimum is seven (7) Ltrs. I have the standard 40 gal tanks so I am looking for fuel every 2 hours of flight time. So if I start out at 9 then I'm down to the minimum of 7 when I land for fuel. I know on my engine when I put anything over 9-10 Ltrs it magically disappears!!! Sooooo, my contribution is ..... keep it at 9 Ltrs. In the past, I would have topped to 12 Ltrs on a long trip so I would not have to carry spare oil but again, the oil just magically disappeares!!!! So now I top it off at 9 Ltrs. I made an oil storage area and have 7 quarts of oil and 1 quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to add to my fuel when I'm on the road. Oh my, I think I've opened up a discussion on the value of using fuel additives!!!! Got to mow the runway. I'm outta here...... On Jul 19, 2016 11:25 AM, "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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William Halverson
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine |
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I buy it on line from the company:
http://www.microlon.com/aircraft_engine_treatment.php
I've used it in my M14PF and all my cars/trucks. I only used it on the a/c engine after I saw good result in my cars - quieter engine + 8% MPG improvement.
Testimonial from the CAF here http://www.microlon.com/PDF/ConfedAirForce.pdf
I used the kit for the Continental R-670 engine:
96 oz for the crankcase and 24 ounces for the fuel
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hkgibby(at)yahoo.com
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Check it out on eBay for $489 free shipping.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/AIRCRAFT-FAA-APPROVED-MICROLON-ENGINE-METAL-TREATMENT-ONLY-ONE-TIME-FOR-LIFE-/131103885841?varId=430269369534
Hank
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On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:16 PM, William Halverson <william(at)netpros.net (william(at)netpros.net)> wrote:
[quote]I buy it on line from the company:
http://www.microlon.com/aircraft_engine_treatment.php
I've used it in my M14PF and all my cars/trucks. I only used it on the a/c engine after I saw good result in my cars - quieter engine + 8% MPG improvement.
Testimonial from the CAF here http://www.microlon.com/PDF/ConfedAirForce.pdf
I used the kit for the Continental R-670 engine:
96 oz for the crankcase and 24 ounces for the fuel
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Clouddog
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine |
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You the Man Jon!!!!! On Jul 19, 2016 1:56 PM, "JON" <jblake207(at)comcast.net (jblake207(at)comcast.net)> wrote: | Quote: | Greg, you're funny..but correct about the can of worms on additives. I thought for sure Jill's comments this morning about using MMO was going to spark some kick backs.
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To the question at hand, Greg is correct in all that he said. When I first purchased my CJ I would keep the oil level at 12 on the dip stick (reminder, it measures liters not quarts) and like Greg's experience, a liter or two would just disappear. I've since learned to keep it b/w 9 and 10 on short local flights and start out with 11 on the longer XC flights... especially in the summer as I want just a little more cooling and lubrication on climb out than required in the winter. Always carry a few quarts with you even if you don't think you'll need it...
Â
Cheers,
JB
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PS. Greg and Bob... Let's be sure to link up at OSH. I think we are the only three ole WOCs in the Red Star community, so I have something that will bring back lots of good old WOC memories.Â
From: "Greg Wrobel" <clouddog22(at)gmail.com (clouddog22(at)gmail.com)>
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:33:27 PM
Subject: Re: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine
Well here come the opinions. Most of the guys I know that fly the Housai say their engines on average burn 1 quart/hr. From my personal experience on my engine that is correct. The minimum is seven (7) Ltrs. I have the standard 40 gal tanks so I am looking for fuel every 2 hours of flight time. So if I start out at 9 then I'm down to the minimum of 7 when I land for fuel. I know on my engine when I put anything over 9-10 Ltrs it magically disappears!!! Sooooo, my contribution is ..... keep it at 9 Ltrs. In the past, I would have topped to 12 Ltrs on a long trip so I would not have to carry spare oil but again, the oil just magically disappeares!!!! So now I top it off at 9 Ltrs. I made an oil storage area and have 7 quarts of oil and 1 quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to add to my fuel when I'm on the road. Oh my, I think I've opened up a discussion on the value of using fuel additives!!!! Got to mow the runway. I'm outta here...... On Jul 19, 2016 11:25 AM, "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Can it be that JW is the promise?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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You the Man Jon!!!!! On Jul 19, 2016 1:56 PM, "JON" <jblake207(at)comcast.net (jblake207(at)comcast.net)> wrote: | Quote: | Greg, you're funny...but correct about the can of worms on additives. I thought for sure Jill's comments this morning about using MMO was going to spark some kick backs.
To the question at hand, Greg is correct in all that he said. When I first purchased my CJ I would keep the oil level at 12 on the dip stick (reminder, it measures liters not quarts) and like Greg's experience, a liter or two would just disappear. I've since learned to keep it b/w 9 and 10 on short local flights and start out with 11 on the longer XC flights... especially in the summer as I want just a little more cooling and lubrication on climb out than required in the winter. Always carry a few quarts with you even if you don't think you'll need it...
Cheers,
JB
PS. Greg and Bob... Let's be sure to link up at OSH. I think we are the only three ole WOCs in the Red Star community, so I have something that will bring back lots of good old WOC memories.
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Subject: Re: Oil Levels +- off the Dip stick, HS6A, Engine
Well here come the opinions. Most of the guys I know that fly the Housai say their engines on average burn 1 quart/hr. From my personal experience on my engine that is correct. The minimum is seven (7) Ltrs. I have the standard 40 gal tanks so I am looking for fuel every 2 hours of flight time. So if I start out at 9 then I'm down to the minimum of 7 when I land for fuel. I know on my engine when I put anything over 9-10 Ltrs it magically disappears!!! Sooooo, my contribution is ..... keep it at 9 Ltrs. In the past, I would have topped to 12 Ltrs on a long trip so I would not have to carry spare oil but again, the oil just magically disappeares!!!! So now I top it off at 9 Ltrs. I made an oil storage area and have 7 quarts of oil and 1 quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to add to my fuel when I'm on the road. Oh my, I think I've opened up a discussion on the value of using fuel additives!!!! Got to mow the runway. I'm outta here...... On Jul 19, 2016 11:25 AM, "Top Ace" <topacedave(at)gmail.com (topacedave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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