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rd2(at)dejazzd.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

Hi all,



The S-Tec Sys 50 Auto Pilot has a dedicated DG for heading mode and a dedicated TC for leveling.



The new Garmin G5 interfaces with Garmin's GMC 30X AP interface.



Does anyone know, if G5 (used as stand alone) can interface with Sys 50 AP in terms of steering Sys 50 via the heading bug (Sys 50 heading mode) and to serve as its Turn Coordinator ?



Rumen

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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:49 am Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

Good question,



I am looking for a HSI replacement for my Century NSD1000 - this looks like it has great potential...The heading bug is the critical path to full functionality in my implementation.



If it outputs the same ARINC command strings as their 400W/500W series GPS units, it will be compatible with S-Tec autopilots via the GPSS interface.  I have a S-Tec 30 working with my 420W using the GPSS interface.  The GPSS interface is also optional for the fifty series.



Let me know if you get a response from Garmin on this one as I am interested as well!



Ralph Capen





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rd2(at)dejazzd.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:36 pm Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

Tx for the feedback, Ralph.

I don't know about a response from Garmin (for this this particular application), as their primary purpose was to interface the G5 with their G3X. But it seems like a little gem with potential and has RS-232 and CAN communication interfaces. I'll keep digging, hopefully will get the info we need.

Rumen

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---- "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> wrote: 



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Good question,



I am looking for a HSI replacement for my Century NSD1000 - this looks like it has great potential...The heading bug is the critical path to full functionality in my implementation.



If it outputs the same ARINC command strings as their 400W/500W series GPS units, it will be compatible with S-Tec autopilots via the GPSS interface.  I have a S-Tec 30 working with my 420W using the GPSS interface.  The GPSS interface is also optional for the fifty series.



Let me know if you get a response from Garmin on this one as I am interested as well!



Ralph Capen





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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

Garmin says the G5 is not designed to interface with 3rd party autopilots ... 

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 The S-Tec Sys 50 Auto Pilot has a dedicated DG for heading mode and a dedicated TC for leveling.

 

 The new Garmin G5 interfaces with Garmin's GMC 30X AP interface.

 

 Does anyone know, if G5 (used as stand alone) can interface with Sys 50 AP in terms of steering Sys 50 via the heading bug (Sys 50 heading mode) and to serve as its Turn Coordinator ?

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:53 pm Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

It's a shame they're blind in the foresight department:

This device could replace every $12,000 HSI installation when the internal gyros fail.  

This device could get every homebuilder into glass screens.



This device could salvage Garmin's monopolistic reputation...



Remember IBM's MicroChannel architecture - and the Sony BetaMax VCR's...both were proprietary monopolistic versions of other devices that nearly cost these companies their existence.



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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:06 am Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

I am not sure if it's myopia or strategy. They already have it approved for cert. AC (the signs were that they would not; or not so fast).

BTW "not designed to interface with 3rd party autopilots" could, but does not necessarily mean "not able". Will keep digging.

Rumen

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---- "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> wrote: 



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It's a shame they're blind in the foresight department:

This device could replace every $12,000 HSI installation when the internal gyros fail.  

This device could get every homebuilder into glass screens.



This device could salvage Garmin's monopolistic reputation...



Remember IBM's MicroChannel architecture - and the Sony BetaMax VCR's...both were proprietary monopolistic versions of other devices that nearly cost these companies their existence.



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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

Grand Rapids Mini looks like potentially a more flexible device. I have had one for 18 months, so far reliable.

 Peter 

On 27 Jul 2016 13:21,  <rd2(at)dejazzd.com (rd2(at)dejazzd.com)> wrote:[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <rd2(at)dejazzd.com (rd2(at)dejazzd.com)>

 

 I am not sure if it's myopia or strategy. They already have it approved for cert. AC (the signs were that they would not; or not so fast).

 BTW "not designed to interface with 3rd party autopilots" could, but does not necessarily mean "not able". Will keep digging.

 Rumen

 do not archive

 

 ---- "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:

 

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 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)>

 

 It's a shame they're blind in the foresight department:

 This device could replace every $12,000 HSI installation when the internal gyros fail.

 This device could get every homebuilder into glass screens.

 

 This device could salvage Garmin's monopolistic reputation...

 

 Remember IBM's MicroChannel architecture - and the Sony BetaMax VCR's...both were proprietary monopolistic versions of other devices that nearly cost these companies their existence.

 

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rd2(at)dejazzd.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:19 pm Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

Tx, will check it out.

R

---- Peter Pengilly <peter(at)sportingaero.com> wrote: 



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Grand Rapids Mini looks like potentially a more flexible device. I have had

one for 18 months, so far reliable.

Peter



On 27 Jul 2016 13:21, <rd2(at)dejazzd.com> wrote:



[quote] 



 I am not sure if it's myopia or strategy. They already have it approved

 for cert. AC (the signs were that they would not; or not so fast).

 BTW "not designed to interface with 3rd party autopilots" could, but does

 not necessarily mean "not able". Will keep digging.

 Rumen

 do not archive



 ---- "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> wrote:



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 recapen(at)earthlink.net>



 It's a shame they're blind in the foresight department:

 This device could replace every $12,000 HSI installation when the internal

 gyros fail.

 This device could get every homebuilder into glass screens.



 This device could salvage Garmin's monopolistic reputation...



 Remember IBM's MicroChannel architecture - and the Sony BetaMax

 VCR's...both were proprietary monopolistic versions of other devices that

 nearly cost these companies their existence.



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:48 pm Post subject: G5 <-> S-Tec Sys 50

I'm looking at it right now as well.



Trying to determine if it will interface with my S-Tec-30 using ARINC-429....





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