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 Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:09 am Post subject: Aeroquip hose |
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George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some flexible
brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be installed. 12
mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
[quote] Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of
hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
*Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum
lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *George
S. Coy
*Sent:* 01 August 2016 17:50
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow.
My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ernest
Martinez
*Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
*To:* yak-list
*Subject:* Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on
the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future
supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked
them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses.
Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like
the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual
owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy
the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense
of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner
might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at
once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log
books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in
2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5
years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: Aeroquip hose |
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No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on the Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:08 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George S. Coy
Sent: 01 August 2016 17:50
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow. My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses. Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in 2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5 years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
We went down this path, simply because we could not get adequate supplies of the original Russian flexible material without ordering kilometres of it. I had not envisaged simply modifying the metal ends of customers to enable them to insert their own hose – remember in Europe that anything like this has been done by an approved organisation.
In terms of costs, we currently charge Euro 90 per hose (about $100) – clearly this is on the basis that we expect to get a complete set for an aircraft – and so very cheap for the big oil hoses, but expensive for small fuel ones, but a great deal simpler for us to quote and invoice.
So this includes the machining and modification to the metal ends; importing Aeroquip 303 hose material from the US; making the hose; testing it; putting on a fireproof cover; giving EASA "form1" certification, which we need to be able to use them.
But we would certainly consider modifying just the individual metal ends, which would clearly be dramatically cheaper, if there were a market. I would also point out that this is only for the Russian hose ends, but quite conceivably the Chinese ends are identical.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: 01 August 2016 13:58
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Richard,
This is interesting. Are these crimp fittings or reusable?
Can you site some example prices.
Ernie
On Monday, August 1, 2016, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Our engine partner, Aerometal in Hungary, has developed a technology to remanufacture the Russian metal ends of flexible hoses (I have no experience, but I would assume very similar, if not identical, to the Chinese ones) in order to accept Aeroquip 303 hose. We have needed to do this to overcome the problem that the original Russian hose material is simply no longer available.
In Europe, an item like this can only be used with an EASA "form1", which is the highest European quality statement for an aviation product, so we have had to go through all the appropriate testing processes, which includes testing at three times normal working pressures.
The procedures add quite a lot to the cost of changing the hose on the first occasion, but then subsequently it is much cheaper.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:57 am Post subject: Aeroquip hose |
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Goodness, that won't work. These B nuts are aluminum.
Now what?
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote] No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on the
Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John B
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 1:08 PM
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server
*Subject:* Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some
flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be
installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of
hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
*Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum
lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *George
S. Coy
*Sent:* 01 August 2016 17:50
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow.
My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ernest
Martinez
*Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
*To:* yak-list
*Subject:* Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on
the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future
supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked
them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses.
Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like
the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual
owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy
the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense
of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner
might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at
once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log
books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in
2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5
years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:06 am Post subject: Aeroquip hose |
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I would use a U.S. hose assembly and adapt at the brake end
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Goodness, that won't work. These B nuts are aluminum.
Now what?
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
. No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on the Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:08 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George S. Coy
Sent: 01 August 2016 17:50
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow. My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses. Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in 2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5 years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
We went down this path, simply because we could not get adequate supplies of the original Russian flexible material without ordering kilometres of it. I had not envisaged simply modifying the metal ends of customers to enable them to insert their own hose – remember in Europe that anything like this has been done by an approved organisation.
In terms of costs, we currently charge Euro 90 per hose (about $100) – clearly this is on the basis that we expect to get a complete set for an aircraft – and so very cheap for the big oil hoses, but expensive for small fuel ones, but a great deal simpler for us to quote and invoice.
So this includes the machining and modification to the metal ends; importing Aeroquip 303 hose material from the US; making the hose; testing it; putting on a fireproof cover; giving EASA "form1" certification, which we need to be able to use them.
But we would certainly consider modifying just the individual metal ends, which would clearly be dramatically cheaper, if there were a market. I would also point out that this is only for the Russian hose ends, but quite conceivably the Chinese ends are identical.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: 01 August 2016 13:58
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Richard,
This is interesting. Are these crimp fittings or reusable?
Can you site some example prices.
Ernie
On Monday, August 1, 2016, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Our engine partner, Aerometal in Hungary, has developed a technology to remanufacture the Russian metal ends of flexible hoses (I have no experience, but I would assume very similar, if not identical, to the Chinese ones) in order to accept Aeroquip 303 hose. We have needed to do this to overcome the problem that the original Russian hose material is simply no longer available.
In Europe, an item like this can only be used with an EASA "form1", which is the highest European quality statement for an aviation product, so we have had to go through all the appropriate testing processes, which includes testing at three times normal working pressures.
The procedures add quite a lot to the cost of changing the hose on the first occasion, but then subsequently it is much cheaper.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:17 am Post subject: Aeroquip hose |
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George-
Yes, I'd do that if I could. The Aeroquip hoses work fine, and they adapt
well to the un-removable fitting on the bulkhead, if I can find a steel
metric B nut.
The fitting is riveted onto the bulkhead in the Yak 55. One can't get into
there to make any changes.
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:06 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote] I would use a U.S. hose assembly and adapt at the brake end
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John B
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 1:56 PM
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server
*Subject:* Re: Aeroquip hose
Goodness, that won't work. These B nuts are aluminum.
Now what?
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
. No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on
the Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John B
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 1:08 PM
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server
*Subject:* Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some
flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be
installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of
hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Goode
*Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum
lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *George
S. Coy
*Sent:* 01 August 2016 17:50
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow.
My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)
matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ernest
Martinez
*Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
*To:* yak-list
*Subject:* Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on
the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future
supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked
them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses.
Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like
the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual
owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy
the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense
of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner
might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at
once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log
books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in
2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5
years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros
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Send me the male fitting and I'll try to match it up for you, that's the best I can do without a part number.
Doug
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:56 AM, John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Goodness, that won't work. These B nuts are aluminum.Now what?
john b
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No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on the Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
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Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George S. Coy
Sent: 01 August 2016 17:50
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow. My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses. Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in 2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5 years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
We went down this path, simply because we could not get adequate supplies of the original Russian flexible material without ordering kilometres of it. I had not envisaged simply modifying the metal ends of customers to enable them to insert their own hose – remember in Europe that anything like this has been done by an approved organisation.
In terms of costs, we currently charge Euro 90 per hose (about $100) – clearly this is on the basis that we expect to get a complete set for an aircraft – and so very cheap for the big oil hoses, but expensive for small fuel ones, but a great deal simpler for us to quote and invoice.
So this includes the machining and modification to the metal ends; importing Aeroquip 303 hose material from the US; making the hose; testing it; putting on a fireproof cover; giving EASA "form1" certification, which we need to be able to use them.
But we would certainly consider modifying just the individual metal ends, which would clearly be dramatically cheaper, if there were a market. I would also point out that this is only for the Russian hose ends, but quite conceivably the Chinese ends are identical.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: 01 August 2016 13:58
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Richard,
This is interesting. Are these crimp fittings or reusable?
Can you site some example prices.
Ernie
On Monday, August 1, 2016, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Our engine partner, Aerometal in Hungary, has developed a technology to remanufacture the Russian metal ends of flexible hoses (I have no experience, but I would assume very similar, if not identical, to the Chinese ones) in order to accept Aeroquip 303 hose. We have needed to do this to overcome the problem that the original Russian hose material is simply no longer available.
In Europe, an item like this can only be used with an EASA "form1", which is the highest European quality statement for an aviation product, so we have had to go through all the appropriate testing processes, which includes testing at three times normal working pressures.
The procedures add quite a lot to the cost of changing the hose on the first occasion, but then subsequently it is much cheaper.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
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Ahh, then you must have a 12MM fitting from your old hose that you can reuse. We may have one around on an old hose.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:17 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Yes, I'd do that if I could. The Aeroquip hoses work fine, and they adapt well to the un-removable fitting on the bulkhead, if I can find a steel metric B nut.
The fitting is riveted onto the bulkhead in the Yak 55. One can't get into there to make any changes.
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:06 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I would use a U.S. hose assembly and adapt at the brake end
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Goodness, that won't work. These B nuts are aluminum.
Now what?
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
. No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on the Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:08 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
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Sent: 01 August 2016 17:50
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow. My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses. Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in 2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5 years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
We went down this path, simply because we could not get adequate supplies of the original Russian flexible material without ordering kilometres of it. I had not envisaged simply modifying the metal ends of customers to enable them to insert their own hose – remember in Europe that anything like this has been done by an approved organisation.
In terms of costs, we currently charge Euro 90 per hose (about $100) – clearly this is on the basis that we expect to get a complete set for an aircraft – and so very cheap for the big oil hoses, but expensive for small fuel ones, but a great deal simpler for us to quote and invoice.
So this includes the machining and modification to the metal ends; importing Aeroquip 303 hose material from the US; making the hose; testing it; putting on a fireproof cover; giving EASA "form1" certification, which we need to be able to use them.
But we would certainly consider modifying just the individual metal ends, which would clearly be dramatically cheaper, if there were a market. I would also point out that this is only for the Russian hose ends, but quite conceivably the Chinese ends are identical.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: 01 August 2016 13:58
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Richard,
This is interesting. Are these crimp fittings or reusable?
Can you site some example prices.
Ernie
On Monday, August 1, 2016, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Our engine partner, Aerometal in Hungary, has developed a technology to remanufacture the Russian metal ends of flexible hoses (I have no experience, but I would assume very similar, if not identical, to the Chinese ones) in order to accept Aeroquip 303 hose. We have needed to do this to overcome the problem that the original Russian hose material is simply no longer available.
In Europe, an item like this can only be used with an EASA "form1", which is the highest European quality statement for an aviation product, so we have had to go through all the appropriate testing processes, which includes testing at three times normal working pressures.
The procedures add quite a lot to the cost of changing the hose on the first occasion, but then subsequently it is much cheaper.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
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The old hose is actually a hard aluminum brake line. The B nut is aluminum. So, unfortunately, I don't have a fitting to rob a part from.
Yes, if you have two steel B nuts on an old hose, I'd love to buy it. I can measure the thread pitch as well. The threads are very fine.
Sent from my iPhone
[quote] On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:43 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Ahh, then you must have a 12MM fitting from your old hose that you can reuse. We may have one around on an old hose.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:17 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Yes, I'd do that if I could. The Aeroquip hoses work fine, and they adapt well to the un-removable fitting on the bulkhead, if I can find a steel metric B nut.
The fitting is riveted onto the bulkhead in the Yak 55. One can't get into there to make any changes.
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:06 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
I would use a U.S. hose assembly and adapt at the brake end
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Goodness, that won't work. These B nuts are aluminum.
Now what?
john b
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
. No. We usually buy some steel fittings and turn them down and weld on the Russian fitting to make an adapter. George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:08 PM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
George-
Do you have a source for metric steel B nuts? I need to make some flexible brake lines for the American master cylinders that will be installed. 12 mm thread diameter. The threads are very fine.
Thank you.
John Bergeson
Phoenix, AZ
Yak 55M
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:35 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Boris regularly gets small quantities for us. Usually one Yak-52 worth of hose materials. As I recall it is similar to303 hose prices.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 2:03 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
George – yes it is available, but at fantastic prices, and at huge minimum lengths!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of George S. Coy
Sent: 01 August 2016 17:50
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Aeroquip hose
And for the yak guys, The Russian hose is still in production in Moscow. My partner recently bought a set of hose material for a Yak-52.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:39 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Perfect, much easier than making.
Can you quote those out for me?
Thanks
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Ernie,
I think your mechanic friend has it backwards, I think it's 10 years on the shelf and 5 years on the aircraft.
I stock a full line of all Chinese hoses, and see no problem with future supply. I have never had call for the metal ends so I have never stocked them.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks,
I thought you just sold the fittings so one could make their own hoses. Unfortunately, the CJ has a few hoses that aren't that easily made, like the ones requireing 90 fittings as an example. I think for the individual owner, it's just easier and probably not much more expensive to just buy the hoses if they are readily available, rather than go through the expense of buying the tooling to be able to perform a task that the average owner might do once every 10 years. I'm just going to replace ALL the hoses at once, and not worry about it again for a long while, I just checked my log books and they haven't been replaced since the plane was certified back in 2000. A mechanic friend of mine told me a rule of thumb for hoses are 5 years on the shelf and 10 years on the airplane, so I'm well overdue.
Thanks
Ernie
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com> wrote:
We went down this path, simply because we could not get adequate supplies of the original Russian flexible material without ordering kilometres of it. I had not envisaged simply modifying the metal ends of customers to enable them to insert their own hose – remember in Europe that anything like this has been done by an approved organisation.
In terms of costs, we currently charge Euro 90 per hose (about $100) – clearly this is on the basis that we expect to get a complete set for an aircraft – and so very cheap for the big oil hoses, but expensive for small fuel ones, but a great deal simpler for us to quote and invoice.
So this includes the machining and modification to the metal ends; importing Aeroquip 303 hose material from the US; making the hose; testing it; putting on a fireproof cover; giving EASA "form1" certification, which we need to be able to use them.
But we would certainly consider modifying just the individual metal ends, which would clearly be dramatically cheaper, if there were a market. I would also point out that this is only for the Russian hose ends, but quite conceivably the Chinese ends are identical.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: 01 August 2016 13:58
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Aeroquip hose
Richard,
This is interesting. Are these crimp fittings or reusable?
Can you site some example prices.
Ernie
On Monday, August 1, 2016, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com> wrote:
Our engine partner, Aerometal in Hungary, has developed a technology to remanufacture the Russian metal ends of flexible hoses (I have no experience, but I would assume very similar, if not identical, to the Chinese ones) in order to accept Aeroquip 303 hose. We have needed to do this to overcome the problem that the original Russian hose material is simply no longer available
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