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Ernie
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 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:26 am Post subject: Housai Winter Ops |
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Just close the oil cooler control, that''l bring the scoop up.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Sallee <danielsallee(at)gmail.com (danielsallee(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a CJ-6A with the stock Housai. It's getting colder out, what have other people done to block off the oil cooler? Also what are preferred temps for cruise in the winter?
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Clouddog
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:16 pm Post subject: Housai Winter Ops |
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If you live in South Florida like Ernie, closing your cooler door may work. If your anywhere North of Gainesville, you will need to learn the tricks. First of all, make sure you have heating pads on your sump, oil tank and oil cooler. When the OAT Temps get below 50 degrees, plug them in. Next, if you have not already done so install a chicken wire screen (approximately 1/2 inch square screen wire available at Lowe's or Home depot) in the leading edge oil cooler inlet. You take the housing inlet off on the leading edge and install the screen. Two things, it keeps people from throwing coke cans down there and a place to place duct tape (read on). Even by closing the oil cooler door from inside the cockpit you still need to block the air off at the inlet on the leading edge of the wing. There are several ways to mount blocker plates but what I find is a piece of duct tape on the screen you installed works great. It's easy to install, and if it's colder in the morning and it warms up by midday, you simply remove it. You will find you might have to run your engine a little warmer in the winter. A hotter engine means hotter oil. If 170 is mid range normal in the summer then 190 plus will help warm the oil in the winter if blocking the airflow with the tape is not enough. I did not say blocking 100%. You will need to experiment with your aircraft and the current OAT. I use about a 4 inch long piece to start. On colder days I may block it off even more. Remember on decent don't pull you throttle to idle. You may need to close down you Gill shutters to keep your cylinder head temps in the green and not cool shock the engine thus cracking a cylinder. Keeping your engine and oil temps in their proper range can be challenging in the summer but I believe even more so in the winter. With the right amount of balance between throttle, gills, cylinder head temp, oil cooler door and blocking off airflow at the inlet on the wing. If anyone ever designs a good after market kit that you can block the airflow at the intake and control it from the cockpit, I believe he or she will have some extra cash in their bank account. Good luck.
On Oct 19, 2016 8:31 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | Just close the oil cooler control, that''l bring the scoop up.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Sallee <danielsallee(at)gmail.com (danielsallee(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject: Housai Winter Ops |
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Or you can install a winterization kit as in the attached photo.I think I may still have some fitted cowl blankets also.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22(at)gmail.com (clouddog22(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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If you live in South Florida like Ernie, closing your cooler door may work. If your anywhere North of Gainesville, you will need to learn the tricks. First of all, make sure you have heating pads on your sump, oil tank and oil cooler. When the OAT Temps get below 50 degrees, plug them in. Next, if you have not already done so install a chicken wire screen (approximately 1/2 inch square screen wire available at Lowe's or Home depot) in the leading edge oil cooler inlet. You take the housing inlet off on the leading edge and install the screen. Two things, it keeps people from throwing coke cans down there and a place to place duct tape (read on). Even by closing the oil cooler door from inside the cockpit you still need to block the air off at the inlet on the leading edge of the wing. There are several ways to mount blocker plates but what I find is a piece of duct tape on the screen you installed works great. It's easy to install, and if it's colder in the morning and it warms up by midday, you simply remove it. You will find you might have to run your engine a little warmer in the winter. A hotter engine means hotter oil. If 170 is mid range normal in the summer then 190 plus will help warm the oil in the winter if blocking the airflow with the tape is not enough. I did not say blocking 100%. You will need to experiment with your aircraft and the current OAT. I use about a 4 inch long piece to start. On colder days I may block it off even more. Remember on decent don't pull you throttle to idle. You may need to close down you Gill shutters to keep your cylinder head temps in the green and not cool shock the engine thus cracking a cylinder. Keeping your engine and oil temps in their proper range can be challenging in the summer but I believe even more so in the winter. With the right amount of balance between throttle, gills, cylinder head temp, oil cooler door and blocking off airflow at the inlet on the wing. If anyone ever designs a good after market kit that you can block the airflow at the intake and control it from the cockpit, I believe he or she will have some extra cash in their bank account. Good luck.
On Oct 19, 2016 8:31 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | Just close the oil cooler control, that''l bring the scoop up.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Sallee <danielsallee(at)gmail.com (danielsallee(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a CJ-6A with the stock Housai. It's getting colder out, what have other people done to block off the oil cooler? Also what are preferred temps for cruise in the winter?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:45 pm Post subject: Housai Winter Ops |
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This is depressing. Sure enjoyed our 3 weeks of sunny, t-shirt flying weather in WI...(sigh)
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 24, 2016, at 7:42 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Or you can install a winterization kit as in the attached photo. I think I may still have some fitted cowl blankets also.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22(at)gmail.com (clouddog22(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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If you live in South Florida like Ernie, closing your cooler door may work. If your anywhere North of Gainesville, you will need to learn the tricks. First of all, make sure you have heating pads on your sump, oil tank and oil cooler. When the OAT Temps get below 50 degrees, plug them in. Next, if you have not already done so install a chicken wire screen (approximately 1/2 inch square screen wire available at Lowe's or Home depot) in the leading edge oil cooler inlet. You take the housing inlet off on the leading edge and install the screen. Two things, it keeps people from throwing coke cans down there and a place to place duct tape (read on). Even by closing the oil cooler door from inside the cockpit you still need to block the air off at the inlet on the leading edge of the wing. There are several ways to mount blocker plates but what I find is a piece of duct tape on the screen you installed works great. It's easy to install, and if it's colder in the morning and it warms up by midday, you simply remove it. You will find you might have to run your engine a little warmer in the winter. A hotter engine means hotter oil. If 170 is mid range normal in the summer then 190 plus will help warm the oil in the winter if blocking the airflow with the tape is not enough. I did not say blocking 100%. You will need to experiment with your aircraft and the current OAT. I use about a 4 inch long piece to start. On colder days I may block it off even more. Remember on decent don't pull you throttle to idle. You may need to close down you Gill shutters to keep your cylinder head temps in the green and not cool shock the engine thus cracking a cylinder. Keeping your engine and oil temps in their proper range can be challenging in the summer but I believe even more so in the winter. With the right amount of balance between throttle, gills, cylinder head temp, oil cooler door and blocking off airflow at the inlet on the wing. If anyone ever designs a good after market kit that you can block the airflow at the intake and control it from the cockpit, I believe he or she will have some extra cash in their bank account. Good luck.
On Oct 19, 2016 8:31 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | Just close the oil cooler control, that''l bring the scoop up.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Sallee <danielsallee(at)gmail.com (danielsallee(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a CJ-6A with the stock Housai. It's getting colder out, what have other people done to block off the oil cooler? Also what are preferred temps for cruise in the winter?
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Ernie
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:32 pm Post subject: Housai Winter Ops |
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Yea, I hear you, I'll have to winterize the plane sometime in the 2nd week of Feb, and will have to wait till the 2nd week of Mar. to thaw out.
On Monday, October 24, 2016, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | This is depressing. Sure enjoyed our 3 weeks of sunny, t-shirt flying weather in WI...(sigh)
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 24, 2016, at 7:42 PM, doug sapp <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dougsappllc(at)gmail.com');]dougsappllc(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
| Quote: | Or you can install a winterization kit as in the attached photo. I think I may still have some fitted cowl blankets also.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Greg Wrobel <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clouddog22(at)gmail.com');]clouddog22(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
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If you live in South Florida like Ernie, closing your cooler door may work. If your anywhere North of Gainesville, you will need to learn the tricks. First of all, make sure you have heating pads on your sump, oil tank and oil cooler. When the OAT Temps get below 50 degrees, plug them in. Next, if you have not already done so install a chicken wire screen (approximately 1/2 inch square screen wire available at Lowe's or Home depot) in the leading edge oil cooler inlet. You take the housing inlet off on the leading edge and install the screen. Two things, it keeps people from throwing coke cans down there and a place to place duct tape (read on). Even by closing the oil cooler door from inside the cockpit you still need to block the air off at the inlet on the leading edge of the wing. There are several ways to mount blocker plates but what I find is a piece of duct tape on the screen you installed works great. It's easy to install, and if it's colder in the morning and it warms up by midday, you simply remove it. You will find you might have to run your engine a little warmer in the winter. A hotter engine means hotter oil. If 170 is mid range normal in the summer then 190 plus will help warm the oil in the winter if blocking the airflow with the tape is not enough. I did not say blocking 100%. You will need to experiment with your aircraft and the current OAT. I use about a 4 inch long piece to start. On colder days I may block it off even more. Remember on decent don't pull you throttle to idle. You may need to close down you Gill shutters to keep your cylinder head temps in the green and not cool shock the engine thus cracking a cylinder. Keeping your engine and oil temps in their proper range can be challenging in the summer but I believe even more so in the winter. With the right amount of balance between throttle, gills, cylinder head temp, oil cooler door and blocking off airflow at the inlet on the wing. If anyone ever designs a good after market kit that you can block the airflow at the intake and control it from the cockpit, I believe he or she will have some extra cash in their bank account. Good luck.
On Oct 19, 2016 8:31 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','erniel29(at)gmail.com');]erniel29(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote: | Quote: | Just close the oil cooler control, that''l bring the scoop up.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Sallee <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danielsallee(at)gmail.com');]danielsallee(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a CJ-6A with the stock Housai. It's getting colder out, what have other people done to block off the oil cooler? Also what are preferred temps for cruise in the winter?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:07 pm Post subject: Housai Winter Ops |
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Awe, Ern...your optimism warms my heart! (Pun intended) Yes, March is an exciting time cuz it means the snow line begins to drop to roof level. Before you know it, it's June and we're pushing density altitude readings above sea level! You know the saying "knee high by the 4th of July?" Well here we say "snow is down to 8 feet, here comes the 30 degree heat!" Well, at least it's a nice "dry heat...." And before you know it, it's July and you can start chipping away the ice dam anchoring the big door to that blacktop that you're pretty sure was there last Summer...then it's off to SloshkOSH...or FrostkOSH...or whatever cruel joke the gods choose to punish me with. Gee, reading this I sound kinda bitter. NAH!!!
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 24, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Yea, I hear you, I'll have to winterize the plane sometime in the 2nd week of Feb, and will have to wait till the 2nd week of Mar. to thaw out.
On Monday, October 24, 2016, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | This is depressing. Sure enjoyed our 3 weeks of sunny, t-shirt flying weather in WI...(sigh)
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 24, 2016, at 7:42 PM, doug sapp <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'dougsappllc(at)gmail.com\');]dougsappllc(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
| Quote: | Or you can install a winterization kit as in the attached photo. I think I may still have some fitted cowl blankets also.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Greg Wrobel <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'clouddog22(at)gmail.com\');]clouddog22(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
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If you live in South Florida like Ernie, closing your cooler door may work. If your anywhere North of Gainesville, you will need to learn the tricks. First of all, make sure you have heating pads on your sump, oil tank and oil cooler. When the OAT Temps get below 50 degrees, plug them in. Next, if you have not already done so install a chicken wire screen (approximately 1/2 inch square screen wire available at Lowe's or Home depot) in the leading edge oil cooler inlet. You take the housing inlet off on the leading edge and install the screen. Two things, it keeps people from throwing coke cans down there and a place to place duct tape (read on). Even by closing the oil cooler door from inside the cockpit you still need to block the air off at the inlet on the leading edge of the wing. There are several ways to mount blocker plates but what I find is a piece of duct tape on the screen you installed works great. It's easy to install, and if it's colder in the morning and it warms up by midday, you simply remove it. You will find you might have to run your engine a little warmer in the winter. A hotter engine means hotter oil. If 170 is mid range normal in the summer then 190 plus will help warm the oil in the winter if blocking the airflow with the tape is not enough. I did not say blocking 100%. You will need to experiment with your aircraft and the current OAT. I use about a 4 inch long piece to start. On colder days I may block it off even more. Remember on decent don't pull you throttle to idle. You may need to close down you Gill shutters to keep your cylinder head temps in the green and not cool shock the engine thus cracking a cylinder. Keeping your engine and oil temps in their proper range can be challenging in the summer but I believe even more so in the winter. With the right amount of balance between throttle, gills, cylinder head temp, oil cooler door and blocking off airflow at the inlet on the wing. If anyone ever designs a good after market kit that you can block the airflow at the intake and control it from the cockpit, I believe he or she will have some extra cash in their bank account. Good luck.
On Oct 19, 2016 8:31 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'erniel29(at)gmail.com\');]erniel29(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote: | Quote: | Just close the oil cooler control, that''l bring the scoop up.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Daniel Sallee <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'danielsallee(at)gmail.com\');]danielsallee(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a CJ-6A with the stock Housai. It's getting colder out, what have other people done to block off the oil cooler? Also what are preferred temps for cruise in the winter?
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