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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:13 pm Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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Hey Richard
Waiting for the fuselage and other pics...Herb
On 11/25/2016 09:45 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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Since the list has been pretty quiet for a while (Hiding from Matt while he solicits donations?) I guess it is time to stick my head up and get back in the game...
I have acquired a Firestar II that is now for sale. The owner decided that he was no longer capable of committing aviation safely, and for reasons of liability, parted out a perfectly functional FSII. So somebody is going to get themselves a really good basket case/project.
So here's the deal: Kolb FSII, NDH, engine is a Rotax 503, dual carb, 418 TT, PTO end cylinder seized at 356 hours, bored to 2nd over. Runs good, B box, 2.58:1, 2 blade Ivo in excellent condition.
Wings are good, one LE has a slight indention in the front, should not be a problem. Cage is excellent. Instruments will be included. Nose bowl fairing not included, it is going to our Firefly project. Two damaged nose bowl fairings included, I have figured out how to repair them, but now I don't need to. You can fix them if you wish. Or Bryan will be glad to sell you a new one.
Landing gear is straight, includes cable brakes. Previous owner modified the axle/gear leg fittings to make them stronger. (?) Your call. Factory upgrade might be an idea...
Boom tube ~ Since the FSII uses the latest quick fold mechanism, we are taking the boom tube and tail assembly from this airplane and grafting it onto our Firefly project. So you will get a Firestar boom tube and tail assembly from an original Firestar. As best we can tell from the plans, there is no difference in the tubing sizes or dimensions of any of these parts. If anyone on the list knows different, I would be glad to be corrected, however, this is how I see it to the best of my knowledge.
The original Firestar used the original Kolb tail folding mechanism which is not as convenient as the current mechanism. It would not be terribly difficult to upgrade the tail to incorporate the current tail ring, vertical tail post, and elevator control system into the tail boom and elevators, but that is your call. I do have the elevator actuator/cable attach mechanism which can be included. I do not have the tail ring/vertical stab assembly or the elevator inserts, you would need to get them from Kolb if you wanted to upgrade to the newer system.
Or if you don't need to fold the tail on a regular basis, this system will work just fine.
By next week I/we (my partner & I) will have migrated the FS boom and tail to the FSII cage, & the FSII boom & tail to the Firefly cage (all the dimensions are identical) and I can post pictures of that, but right now it is a slow night and I am bored, so I'll get things started now with just a few pictures of the wings.
$3500 for everything. No N numbers, no registration, this is a pure basket case sale, and the buyer will be signing for a collection of unairworthy parts of unknown description. Everything has been de-skinned, no plumbing, fabric, wiring, Lexan, fuel tanks or cables. (Scrounging is good)
You will be buying in effect a KOLB FSII (mostly assembled kit) that needs to be recovered, wired, plumbed, and totally rebuilt, registered, etc. but signing a bill of sale that says you are buying a collection of unairworthy junk.
PM me. I need to get this thing out of my carport before the snow gets here. No tire kickers, price is firm.
More pictures next week.
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Richard Pike
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Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb FSII for sale |
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How about now? (Replaced most of the original pictures with better ones)
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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Noop
No Pics...Herb
On 11/26/2016 04:50 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:26 pm Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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Nothing attached to your e-mail, Richard. The wings photos came through fine, though.
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Date: Saturday, November 26, 2016, 5:50 PM
"Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
How about now?
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Richard Pike
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb FSII for sale |
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All the pictures are in the original post from Friday. I edited it. Look there. (I know they are in there because I used my wife's computer to look them up)
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:56 pm Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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On 11/26/2016 9:48 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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All the pictures are in the original post from Friday. I edited it. Look there. (I know they are in there because I used my wife's computer to look them up)
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:39 am Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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Richard
It is the second batch...airframe...etc that has not come through...Herb
On 11/26/2016 10:57 PM, Charlie England wrote:
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On 11/26/2016 9:48 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> All the pictures are in the original post from Friday. I edited it.
> Look there. (I know they are in there because I used my wife's
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> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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Hi Richard
Think I have it this time...
The white tail feathers and boom tube and the blue/black fuselage on
the gear are what is being sold...plus the wings in the previous pics
along with engine and prop...Pretty much sum it up? Herb
On 11/25/2016 09:45 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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Since the list has been pretty quiet for a while (Hiding from Matt while he solicits donations?) I guess it is time to stick my head up and get back in the game...
I have acquired a Firestar II that is now for sale. The owner decided that he was no longer capable of committing aviation safely, and for reasons of liability, parted out a perfectly functional FSII. So somebody is going to get themselves a really good basket case/project.
So here's the deal: Kolb FSII, NDH, engine is a Rotax 503, dual carb, 418 TT, PTO end cylinder seized at 356 hours, bored to 2nd over. Runs good, B box, 2.58:1, 2 blade Ivo in excellent condition.
Wings are good, one LE has a slight indention in the front, should not be a problem. Cage is excellent. Instruments will be included. Nose bowl fairing not included, it is going to our Firefly project. Two damaged nose bowl fairings included, I have figured out how to repair them, but now I don't need to. You can fix them if you wish. Or Bryan will be glad to sell you a new one.
Landing gear is straight, includes cable brakes. Previous owner modified the axle/gear leg fittings to make them stronger. (?) Your call. Factory upgrade might be an idea...
Boom tube ~ Since the FSII uses the latest quick fold mechanism, we are taking the boom tube and tail assembly from this airplane and grafting it onto our Firefly project. So you will get a Firestar boom tube and tail assembly from an original Firestar. As best we can tell from the plans, there is no difference in the tubing sizes or dimensions of any of these parts. If anyone on the list knows different, I would be glad to be corrected, however, this is how I see it to the best of my knowledge.
The original Firestar used the original Kolb tail folding mechanism which is not as convenient as the current mechanism. It would not be terribly difficult to upgrade the tail to incorporate the current tail ring, vertical tail post, and elevator control system into the tail boom and elevators, but that is your call. I do have the elevator actuator/cable attach mechanism which can be included. I do not have the tail ring/vertical stab assembly or the elevator inserts, you would need to get them from Kolb if you wanted to upgrade to the newer system.
Or if you don't need to fold the tail on a regular basis, this system will work just fine.
By next week I/we (my partner & I) will have migrated the FS boom and tail to the FSII cage, & the FSII boom & tail to the Firefly cage (all the dimensions are identical) and I can post pictures of that, but right now it is a slow night and I am bored, so I'll get things started now with just a few pictures of the wings.
$3500 for everything. No N numbers, no registration, this is a pure basket case sale, and the buyer will be signing for a collection of unairworthy parts of unknown description. Everything has been de-skinned, no plumbing, fabric, wiring, Lexan, fuel tanks or cables. (Scrounging is good)
You will be buying in effect a KOLB FSII (mostly assembled kit) that needs to be recovered, wired, plumbed, and totally rebuilt, registered, etc. but signing a bill of sale that says you are buying a collection of unairworthy junk.
PM me. I need to get this thing out of my carport before the snow gets here. No tire kickers, price is firm.
More pictures next week.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=463102#463102
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1050397_medium_111.jpg
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Richard Pike
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb FSII for sale |
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[quote="Herbgh(at)nctc.com"]Hi Richard
Think I have it this time...
The white tail feathers and boom tube and the blue/black fuselage on
the gear are what is being sold...plus the wings in the previous pics
along with engine and prop...Pretty much sum it up? Herb
On 11/25/2016 09:45 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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You got it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:41 pm Post subject: Kolb FSII for sale |
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yep..got it...Herb
On 11/27/2016 05:36 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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[quote="Herbgh(at)nctc.com"]Hi Richard
Think I have it this time...
The white tail feathers and boom tube and the blue/black fuselage on
the gear are what is being sold...plus the wings in the previous pics
along with engine and prop...Pretty much sum it up? Herb
On 11/25/2016 09:45 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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