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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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 Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:20 am Post subject: Fwd: Re: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners |
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-------- Välitetty viesti / Fwd.Msg -------- Aihe: Re: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners Päiväys: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 17:50:18 +0200 Lähettäjä: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi> (raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi) Vastaanottaja: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Greg,
that´s true. But only when Europa is standing in the rain, never when flying during the rain!
Wet panel inside and water around the pedals made me a bit nervous!
My solution: - keep always in the hangar during the rain and when this is not possible for example in Fly-Ins, I put nice RWM packing tape one meter
over the "camlocks" (in my case only three [3] of them front of the windshield) when rain is expected . Simple, fast, easy, low-cost and effective.
Of course this is not a professional solution, but it works very well.
You could made a mod preventing water to come, but why in the hell again add some dead weight?
Rubber is good, but let´s use it in the bed if really necessary. Hope not!
If I have not cockpit covers omboard, I tape always also a refueling cap. Just in case!
There is a rubber sealing ring but I do not trust it.
"Number of pitfalls" ? Please please report them all!
There are number of pitfalls when not using camlocks or other "fast-remove-cowling-system"!
Please loosen your hat...
Those of you who are building, I highly recommend to make a quick release system at least for the upper cowling.
Those who are flying, just consider to do it.
Just for your safety.
Cheers,
Raimo
OH-XRT #417
Finland
allekirjoitus (info(at)rwm.fi)
6.1.2017, 11:53, Greg Fuchs kirjoitti:
| Quote: | | Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Greg Fuchs " <gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcast.net> (gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcast.net)
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There are a number of pitfalls using any camlock style system. The
firewall area at the top is not square. This causes head of the camlock to
appear cocked. Because of this, they will leak in the rain.
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Interesting problem indeed. Just trying to 'brainstorm' a fix for rain
invasion. Possibly thin rubber washers slid up the body of the camlock to
the back side of the head? Possibly that might provide a seal? Probably
better answers out there than this..
Greg
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jglazener
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners |
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Hello Raimo, I followed your suggestion and contacted MilSpec. I got the following reply: ""I would recommend using the 4000 series C-Spec fasteners for this application. The 2000 series are generally not robust enough for a main cowling application. The easiest way to do this would be to use our pre-engineered fastener sets found here http://milspecproducts.com/heavy_duty_4000_series".
I understand from your post that you used the 2000 series. The 4000 series are a bit more expensive but not ridiculously so, which suggests they are not just after more money. They do however seem a lot bigger which raises weight issues. What is your idea- is the 2000 adequate in your experience or would it be worthwhile getting the 4000?
BTW I like your analogy of a cowling without access hatches with a beautiful woman. I happen to be rather partial to beautiful women as well as aircraft, and any idea that keeps them both shut up is welcome 
Thanks,
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