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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:53 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Hi Guys
My granddaughter has some dolls that talk, how can one modify (or construct ones own) a voice generator that says: (for obvious reasons) Stall Stall
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:34 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

You could

1. if there's a memory chip you could reprogram it, or replace it with one with your own data

2. you could replace part of the circuit with a microcontroller of your own to bash out your own audio but use the same output stage - amplifier and speaker. Two seconds of 8kHz sampled audio is 16KBytes, or half that if you use 4 bit samples. You could find a microcontroller with enough memory or use an external memory chip. Any $1 microcontroller now has a D to A, or you can bit-bash your own with a resistor ladder or 4 or 8 bit PWM output

3. you could build your own system from scratch and put it in the doll
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:39 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

I am using an older ISD1730 evaluation board that was around $10. from
digi-key for 3 different voice warnings on my amphib.
Today I'd start by looking at something like this
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10653
and I'd google "arduino voice recorder"
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:45 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Someone's done all the hard work for you ...
https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-audio-fx-sound-board
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I am using an older ISD1730 evaluation board that was around $10. from digi-key for 3 different voice warnings on my amphib.
Today I'd start by looking at something like this
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10653
and I'd google "arduino voice recorder"
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:45 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Answer 1) How ?
Answer 2). How ?
Answer 3) How ? (doll = aeroplane)

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You could

1. if there's a memory chip you could reprogram it, or replace it with one with your own data

2. you could replace part of the circuit with a microcontroller of your own to bash out your own audio but use the same output stage - amplifier and speaker. Two seconds of 8kHz sampled audio is 16KBytes, or half that if you use 4 bit samples. You could find a microcontroller with enough memory or use an external memory chip. Any $1 microcontroller now has a D to A, or you can bit-bash your own with a resistor ladder or 4 or 8 bit PWM output

3. you could build your own system from scratch and put it in the doll


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:55 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Ken
Thank you: that's the type of answer that helps
Regards: John

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Someone's done all the hard work for you ...


https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-audio-fx-sound-board


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I am using an older ISD1730 evaluation board that was around $10. from digi-key for 3 different voice warnings on my amphib.
Today I'd start by looking at something like this
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10653
and I'd google "arduino voice recorder"
Ken

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> Regards: John











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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:56 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Alec
Thank you
John

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Someone's done all the hard work for you ...


https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-audio-fx-sound-board


On 3Feb2017, at 2:36 PM, C&K <yellowduckduo(at)gmail.com> wrote:



I am using an older ISD1730 evaluation board that was around $10. from digi-key for 3 different voice warnings on my amphib.
Today I'd start by looking at something like this
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10653
and I'd google "arduino voice recorder"
Ken

> On 03/02/2017 7:53 AM, JOHN TIPTON wrote:
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> Regards: John











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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:24 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

I've seen birthday cards that let  you record your own audio message. Gutting one of those might be the easiest way to do what you want, if you have some soldering skills. 

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

I have used an "ISD1820 Voice Record Module" with success:
eBay item number: 201708883118 $1.63 with free shipping.
It takes one month to ship from China.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:29 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

I have used many of the Chinese knockoffs for cheap experiments or where
saving pennies is important but expect zero support for the product
other than free replacement if you get a dud.
For a one off or first time project I recommend using adafruit.com or
sparkfun.com or similar vendors to increase the chances of success with
greatly reduced aggravation.
Minor changes in some of these products can chew up a lot of time
sorting things out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

All of this discussion presupposes that the OP knows how to get a signal line out of an EFIS or an AOA device, or a stall horn switch and send it to
a memory/DAC system (i.e., a voice generator) to trigger an annunciation event. It is not hard, but not trivial and depends on the specifics of the
target hardware


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Great subject. DX.com has several of these for a few bucks. They have reasonably fast shipping.

Two thoughts: This is a perfect place to put a perfect female voice from a coworker, sister, friend, etc.

The Air Forces uses audio warnings extensively. The potential uses for these is mind boggling.

A Guerrilla group in San Francisco bought a load of GI Joes and Talking Barbies and swapped the chips and returned them for credit. Now the GI Joes said sweetly, "Let's go shopping!" and the Barbies said, "Take that hill !"

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:33 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

Lots of room to have fun but I had to use my own voice.
We males may be programmed to pay more attention to female voices but
the ones around me were too smart to let their voices become "bitch'in
betty" Wink
Of course a large part of audio warning success is to avoid nuisance
warnings that train our brains to ignore them.
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Great subject. DX.com has several of these for a few bucks. They have reasonably fast shipping.

Two thoughts: This is a perfect place to put a perfect female voice from a coworker, sister, friend, etc.

The Air Forces uses audio warnings extensively. The potential uses for these is mind boggling.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

In the late 1970's when we were living in Silicon Valley my dad had a start up high tech electronics firm. Since he was in the business he had lots of friends from all over the world who were all in Silicon Valley dreaming up all kinds of futuristic ideas. 

One such friend came over one night and he had a very small PC board with an integrated chip and a small microphone. This device would capture about 5 to 10 seconds of audio and record it in solid state on the chip... wow... no spinning records or magnetic tape. 
We all sat around the kitchen table and played with it and laughed and try to dream up ways that this device could be used. We had such ideas as a teddy bear, greeting card, Christmas ornament but that was about the extent of our creativity.
Fast forward 20 to 40 years and it is shocking that so many devices still use a goofy synthetic voice to say things like "autopilot"  or "too low flaps"  instead of a device with a recorded sexy female real person voice. 

Bill Hunter

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Two thoughts: This is a perfect place to put a perfect female voice from a coworker, sister, friend, etc.

The Air Forces uses audio warnings extensively. The potential uses for these is mind boggling.

Eric

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I also just remembered that in the late 1990s I was interviewing for a corporate Jet Pilot position with a Silicon Valley firm that was purchasing their first jet. 

During the interview I asked what their product line was and the principle explain to me that they had just invented a computer chip that could record 1000 songs on it. I remember him looking across the conference table and pointed to his thumbnail and said that this ship was only the size of a person's thumb nail and that it could record 1000 songs. I was amazed because a compact disc at the time would only record 40 songs. 
He said that he could not elaborate more about the product nor could he tell me what other companies he was going to be a vendor for with this revolutionary new product.

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In the late 1970's when we were living in Silicon Valley my dad had a start up high tech electronics firm. Since he was in the business he had lots of friends from all over the world who were all in Silicon Valley dreaming up all kinds of futuristic ideas. 

One such friend came over one night and he had a very small PC board with an integrated chip and a small microphone. This device would capture about 5 to 10 seconds of audio and record it in solid state on the chip... wow... no spinning records or magnetic tape. 
We all sat around the kitchen table and played with it and laughed and try to dream up ways that this device could be used. We had such ideas as a teddy bear, greeting card, Christmas ornament but that was about the extent of our creativity.
Fast forward 20 to 40 years and it is shocking that so many devices still use a goofy synthetic voice to say things like "autopilot"  or "too low flaps"  instead of a device with a recorded sexy female real person voice. 

Bill Hunter

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Two thoughts: This is a perfect place to put a perfect female voice from a coworker, sister, friend, etc.

The Air Forces uses audio warnings extensively. The potential uses for these is mind boggling.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:52 am    Post subject: Stall - Stall Reply with quote

No voice actor royalties. Smile

On a more serious note. There was an article some months ago about a DIY stick shaker. I wonder if that might be a more effective alert tool for stall warning than any visual or audio alert. I'd never considered making one, but the execution would be relatively simple, as long as you have a signal source.
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One such friend came over one night and he had a very small PC board with an integrated chip and a small microphone. This device would capture about 5 to 10 seconds of audio and record it in solid state on the chip... wow... no spinning records or magnetic tape. 
We all sat around the kitchen table and played with it and laughed and try to dream up ways that this device could be used. We had such ideas as a teddy bear, greeting card, Christmas ornament but that was about the extent of our creativity.
Fast forward 20 to 40 years and it is shocking that so many devices still use a goofy synthetic voice to say things like "autopilot"  or "too low flaps"  instead of a device with a recorded sexy female real person voice. 

Bill Hunter

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Two thoughts: This is a perfect place to put a perfect female voice from a coworker, sister, friend, etc.

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