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we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week the wing attach points and bridle where never installed by the builder however it was a quick build , he never intended to fold or hall it . now he is dead and the estate needs it sold, My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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How far do you have to haul it? I took mine 20 miles to the airport. I followed the instructions in the builder’s manual for folding and I made a tail boom stand out of an automotive jack stand. It made it, but I would not want to go much farther than that as there was enough movement of the wings against the bracket that it wore all the powder coat off of the bracket. I could not tell how much material was worn off of the aluminum spar, but it had to be at least some. For a longer move I would want the wing tips supported to the trailer, not the tail boom.
$50 worth of 2X4’s, screws and carpet scraps could save a lot of damage.
In short, I think the wing fold brackets are find for sitting or moving in and out of storage, but are not good for long travels, especially on an open trailer.
Search the archives, you will find much discussion and several pictures of how this has been accomplished by others.
I have a few photos of the firefly folded, but will have to look to see if there are any of it loaded on the trailer.
Stuart
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Subject: trailering a fire fly
we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week the wing attach points and bridle where never installed by the builder however it was a quick build , he never intended to fold or hall it . now he is dead and the estate needs it sold, My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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When in doubt, remove the wings and secure them separate from the fuselage, it's only one more bolt per side and it makes the whole plane much less vulnerable to damage and 10 times easier to handle.
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week the wing attach points and bridle where never installed by the builder however it was a quick build , he never intended to fold or hall it . now he is dead and the estate needs it sold, My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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how wide is the boom tub? how long should the tube that fits into the wing be? how far out from the center of the boom tube the wing support tube is should depend on how much padding I have between the boom tube and the wing, this problem totty took me by surprise. I think I have a good handle on it, no pun intended
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
From: Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: trailering a fire fly
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How far do you have to haul it? I took mine 20 miles to the airport. I followed the instructions in the builder’s manual for folding and I made a tail boom stand out of an automotive jack stand. It made it, but I would not want to go much farther than that as there was enough movement of the wings against the bracket that it wore all the powder coat off of the bracket. I could not tell how much material was worn off of the aluminum spar, but it had to be at least some. For a longer move I would want the wing tips supported to the trailer, not the tail boom
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rlaird
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One method of supporting the boom tube on a Kolb MkIII (and other aircraft) is by using a PVC "saddle". This saddle is originally made for irrigation piping, but works perfectly with a little modification. The saddle itself requires no tweaking, but there is a pipe that connects to the saddle-tee, and the base of that needs a large castered wheel.
Another good solution for supporting the boom tube while trailering is to find a "base" for the pipe that comes out of the saddle-tee, and affix the "base" to the trailer... then, after the Kolb is in place on the trailer, put the saddle-tee in place on the boom-tube, then screw a connecting pipe on to it and the base.
One source:
Irrigation Station LLP
11929 Windfern
Houston, TX 77064
281-890-6574
sales(at)irrigationstation.com (sales(at)irrigationstation.com)
Part: 6 x 2 PVC IPS FIPT Saddle, product code 4460-20 (at) $41.00
(The above part description, part #, and price is as of Aug 2008)
The part information above is only for the saddle-tee. Also needed is a pipe, connected to the saddle-tee, and of course the wheel. (When I find a photo of the saddle in place on the boom tube, I'll post it here.) I've used this method (with the caster wheel for over 7 years with my Mk III. I also have the base that attached to my trailer floor, for securing it while transporting it.
Below are mfg pix of saddle-tees.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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how wide is the boom tub? how long should the tube that fits into the wing be? how far out from the center of the boom tube the wing support tube is should depend on how much padding I have between the boom tube and the wing, this problem totty took me by surprise. I think I have a good handle on it, no pun intended
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
From: Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: trailering a fire fly
How far do you have to haul it? I took mine 20 miles to the airport. I followed the instructions in the builder’s manual for folding and I made a tail boom stand out of an automotive jack stand. It made it, but I would not want to go much farther than that as there was enough movement of the wings against the bracket that it wore all the powder coat off of the bracket. I could not tell how much material was worn off of the aluminum spar, but it had to be at least some. For a longer move I would want the wing tips supported to the trailer, not the tail boom.
$50 worth of 2X4’s, screws and carpet scraps could save a lot of damage.
In short, I think the wing fold brackets are find for sitting or moving in and out of storage, but are not good for long travels, especially on an open trailer.
Search the archives, you will find much discussion and several pictures of how this has been accomplished by others.
I have a few photos of the firefly folded, but will have to look to see if there are any of it loaded on the trailer.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Malcolm Brubaker
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:34 PM
To: Kolb-list matronics.com
Subject: trailering a fire fly
we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week the wing attach points and bridle where never installed by the builder however it was a quick build , he never intended to fold or hall it . now he is dead and the estate needs it sold, My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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Very interesting, thanks for posting.
Question? Is the MKIII tail boom 6” in diameter?
The firefly is 5”, so this may be too large unless you glue some padding of some kind inside of the saddle. Carpeting comes to mind.
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Laird
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:58 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: trailering a fire fly
One method of supporting the boom tube on a Kolb MkIII (and other aircraft) is by using a PVC "saddle". This saddle is originally made for irrigation piping, but works perfectly with a little modification. The saddle itself requires no tweaking, but there is a pipe that connects to the saddle-tee, and the base of that needs a large castered wheel.
Another good solution for supporting the boom tube while trailering is to find a "base" for the pipe that comes out of the saddle-tee, and affix the "base" to the trailer... then, after the Kolb is in place on the trailer, put the saddle-tee in place on the boom-tube, then screw a connecting pipe on to it and the base.
One source:
Irrigation Station LLP
11929 Windfern
Houston, TX 77064
281-890-6574
sales(at)irrigationstation.com (sales(at)irrigationstation.com)
Part: 6 x 2 PVC IPS FIPT Saddle, product code 4460-20 (at) $41.00
(The above part description, part #, and price is as of Aug 2008)
The part information above is only for the saddle-tee. Also needed is a pipe, connected to the saddle-tee, and of course the wheel. (When I find a photo of the saddle in place on the boom tube, I'll post it here.) I've used this method (with the caster wheel for over 7 years with my Mk III. I also have the base that attached to my trailer floor, for securing it while transporting it.
Below are mfg pix of saddle-tees.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
how wide is the boom tub? how long should the tube that fits into the wing be? how far out from the center of the boom tube the wing support tube is should depend on how much padding I have between the boom tube and the wing, this problem totty took me by surprise. I think I have a good handle on it, no pun intended
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
From: Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: trailering a fire fly
How far do you have to haul it? I took mine 20 miles to the airport. I followed the instructions in the builder’s manual for folding and I made a tail boom stand out of an automotive jack stand. It made it, but I would not want to go much farther than that as there was enough movement of the wings against the bracket that it wore all the powder coat off of the bracket. I could not tell how much material was worn off of the aluminum spar, but it had to be at least some. For a longer move I would want the wing tips supported to the trailer, not the tail boom.
$50 worth of 2X4’s, screws and carpet scraps could save a lot of damage.
In short, I think the wing fold brackets are find for sitting or moving in and out of storage, but are not good for long travels, especially on an open trailer.
Search the archives, you will find much discussion and several pictures of how this has been accomplished by others.
I have a few photos of the firefly folded, but will have to look to see if there are any of it loaded on the trailer.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Malcolm Brubaker
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:34 PM
To: Kolb-list matronics.com
Subject: trailering a fire fly
we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week the wing attach points and bridle where never installed by the builder however it was a quick build , he never intended to fold or hall it . now he is dead and the estate needs it sold, My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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rlaird
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Relying on memory (a very dangerous thing!), yes, it's 6" in diameter.
The PVC saddle has a thin (but not too thin) piece of rubber covering the entire inside surface, so that when it contacts the boom tube, it creates enough friction to stop the saddle from moving around on it (and protects the aluminum). Carpet might work, but you'd then have to worry about it moving around on you. I don't know if anyone makes a 5" saddle, but that's would be a better solution. Second-best would be to use something rubber-like with a lot of friction that would give a tight and very even "seal" around the tube.
Until you mentioned the issue of its use with a 5" boom, it never occurred to me how lucky it is that this all works together so well!
-- R
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)> wrote:
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Very interesting, thanks for posting.
Question? Is the MKIII tail boom 6” in diameter?
The firefly is 5”, so this may be too large unless you glue some padding of some kind inside of the saddle. Carpeting comes to mind.
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Robert Laird
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:58 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: trailering a fire fly
One method of supporting the boom tube on a Kolb MkIII (and other aircraft) is by using a PVC "saddle". This saddle is originally made for irrigation piping, but works perfectly with a little modification. The saddle itself requires no tweaking, but there is a pipe that connects to the saddle-tee, and the base of that needs a large castered wheel.
Another good solution for supporting the boom tube while trailering is to find a "base" for the pipe that comes out of the saddle-tee, and affix the "base" to the trailer... then, after the Kolb is in place on the trailer, put the saddle-tee in place on the boom-tube, then screw a connecting pipe on to it and the base.
One source:
Irrigation Station LLP
11929 Windfern
Houston, TX 77064
[url=tel:281-890-6574]281-890-6574[/url]
sales(at)irrigationstation.com (sales(at)irrigationstation.com)
Part: 6 x 2 PVC IPS FIPT Saddle, product code 4460-20 (at) $41.00
(The above part description, part #, and price is as of Aug 2008)
The part information above is only for the saddle-tee. Also needed is a pipe, connected to the saddle-tee, and of course the wheel. (When I find a photo of the saddle in place on the boom tube, I'll post it here.) I've used this method (with the caster wheel for over 7 years with my Mk III. I also have the base that attached to my trailer floor, for securing it while transporting it.
Below are mfg pix of saddle-tees.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
how wide is the boom tub? how long should the tube that fits into the wing be? how far out from the center of the boom tube the wing support tube is should depend on how much padding I have between the boom tube and the wing, this problem totty took me by surprise. I think I have a good handle on it, no pun intended
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
[url=tel:%28989%29513-3022](989)513-3022[/url]
From: Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: trailering a fire fly
How far do you have to haul it? I took mine 20 miles to the airport. I followed the instructions in the builder’s manual for folding and I made a tail boom stand out of an automotive jack stand. It made it, but I would not want to go much farther than that as there was enough movement of the wings against the bracket that it wore all the powder coat off of the bracket. I could not tell how much material was worn off of the aluminum spar, but it had to be at least some. For a longer move I would want the wing tips supported to the trailer, not the tail boom.
$50 worth of 2X4’s, screws and carpet scraps could save a lot of damage.
In short, I think the wing fold brackets are find for sitting or moving in and out of storage, but are not good for long travels, especially on an open trailer.
Search the archives, you will find much discussion and several pictures of how this has been accomplished by others.
I have a few photos of the firefly folded, but will have to look to see if there are any of it loaded on the trailer.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Malcolm Brubaker
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:34 PM
To: Kolb-list matronics.com
Subject: trailering a fire fly
we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week the wing attach points and bridle where never installed by the builder however it was a quick build , he never intended to fold or hall it . now he is dead and the estate needs it sold, My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
[url=tel:%28989%29513-3022](989)513-3022[/url]
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George Alexander
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| brubakermal(at)yahoo.com wrote: | we need to deliver a fire fly by open trailer next week . . . .S N I P . . . My question is how to fold and haul it safely? any pics would really be helpful
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
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Dennis Kirby
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Location: Albuquerque, NM
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:56 am Post subject: trailering a fire fly |
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Robert Laird wrote: << One method of supporting the boom tube on a Kolb
MkIII (and other aircraft) is by using a PVC "saddle". This saddle is
originally made for irrigation piping, but works perfectly with a little
modification, and the base of *that* needs a large castered wheel. >>
Malcom / Kolb Friends -
Here's a picture of how I built my boom tube support for my Mark-3.
The center saddle is made from a piece of 12-inch diameter PVC, cut in half
lengthwise. I glued foam to the inside surface for padding. The two side
saddles are for supporting the wings. This is much more supportive, and
safer for transporting over long distances compared to the stock method of
wing support, which uses the 1/2 inch tube that passes thru the fuselage
tube.
For added shock absorption, once the aircraft is on the trailer, I place an
old tire under the dolly to raise it high enough to just get the casters off
the deck, then tie down the whole aircraft.
I have trailered my Mark-3 hundreds of miles using this, with no damage
whatsoever.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912, Powerfin
New Mexico
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frank goodnight
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:25 am Post subject: trailering a fire fly |
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Hi Dennis, and other Klobers
Please explain how you get the
saddle under the boom tube.
My mk3 tail is too heavy for me
to lift. Do you use a jack under the
Tail ? A hoist? Or are you just really
strong. Your method looks good.
Frank
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On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:55 AM, "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> wrote:
| Quote: | Robert Laird wrote: << One method of supporting the boom tube on a Kolb
MkIII (and other aircraft) is by using a PVC "saddle". This saddle is
originally made for irrigation piping, but works perfectly with a little
modification, and the base of *that* needs a large castered wheel. >>
Malcom / Kolb Friends -
Here's a picture of how I built my boom tube support for my Mark-3.
The center saddle is made from a piece of 12-inch diameter PVC, cut in half
lengthwise. I glued foam to the inside surface for padding. The two side
saddles are for supporting the wings. This is much more supportive, and
safer for transporting over long distances compared to the stock method of
wing support, which uses the 1/2 inch tube that passes thru the fuselage
tube.
For added shock absorption, once the aircraft is on the trailer, I place an
old tire under the dolly to raise it high enough to just get the casters off
the deck, then tie down the whole aircraft.
I have trailered my Mark-3 hundreds of miles using this, with no damage
whatsoever.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912, Powerfin
New Mexico
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Dennis Kirby
Joined: 05 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:44 am Post subject: trailering a fire fly |
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frank.goodnight wrote: << Hi Dennis, Please explain how you get the saddle under the boom tube.
My mk3 tail is too heavy for me to lift. Do you use a jack under the Tail ? A hoist? Or are you just really strong. Your method looks good. Frank >>
Frank / Kolb Friends -
I bring the dolly right up alongside the fuselage tube near the tail, wrap one arm around the boom and lift, then slide the dolly under the tube. The saddle on the dolly is only a few inches higher than the boom tube, so I don't have to lift it very high.
Thanks for the compliment about being "strong," but ... there is only 65 pounds of weight sitting on the tailwheel. Where I lift the tail boom - just at the leading edge of the vertical fin - might be about 5 pounds more (due to shorter lever arm, compared to location of the tail wheel).
When trailering, I roll the whole assembly up ramps onto my flatbed trailer. Then, I use a jack to lift the rear of the Kolb (with the dolly still attached) up high enough to slip an old car tire underneath the dolly, for extra shock absorption.
George Alexander has been gracious enough to post other pictures of my tail boom support dolly on his website.
Dennis Kirby
Sandia Park, New Mexico
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phcpilot
Joined: 24 May 2016
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 6:42 am Post subject: Re: trailering a fire fly |
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Would anyone have handy, the measurements for the foam covered plastic pipe tube assembly people use to tie the stabs and fin together on a MKIII. I am not near the plane right now.
Many thanks
Peter
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west1m
Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Location: Hastings, MN
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:50 am Post subject: Re: trailering a fire fly |
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I measured the ones for my Firefly. tubes are 1" PVC 40 inches long with the knot holes at 38". (I forgot to measure the distance between)
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