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ave8ta

Joined: 28 Jul 2017
Posts: 2
Location: Vanuatu

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:34 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar and 20’ container hangar - possible?

Hi all,



I would like to purchase a FireStar II SS. Love the folding wing capabilities!



Can the Kolb FireStar II SS  fit be hangered inside a 20’ container between flights?



Where I live security is a real issue and she must be stored between flights in a 20’ Container.  Comparing the dimensions of the container and FireStar II SS we see a small problem with length :



                           Container                     Mark III               Conclusion

Height                7’4”      (door)                 6’4”                    fits

Width                 7’6”      (door)                 6’10”                  fits

Length                19’5”    (interior)              22’2”                      -2’7”

http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/20ft-container-size/



What are your thoughts please? Will angling her up let her fit ? Removing nose or rudder? Any one flying from a 20' foot container?



Thanking you in advance.



Strength for today, Bright Hope for tomorrow

Yours Faithfully

Paul Dalley

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar and 20’ container hangar - possible?

According to the Kolb web site, the FSII SS is 22' long. There is no point in removing the nose cone because the rudder pedals & nose wheel will still be out there. You might gain a few inches by making the front of the nose cone quick detach. 

You would need to shorten the wings a bit as well as make the rudder quick disconnect because when folded, the wing tips typically come back to the end of the rudder. The trailing edges of the elevators are still going to stick bak out there though. 

Search the archives for info on shortening the tail boom, several people have done that in the past and were not real happy with the results, but I don't remember the details, that is an old topic. It might be possible to shorten it just a little, but from what I remember, not very much or things go wonky.



Maybe it would be easier to buy four 8' pieces of scrap steel 2' wide, cut one end of the container off, weld in the 2' wide pieces of steel and make the container longer? A decent welding shop ought to be able to knock that out in a day.

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ave8ta

Joined: 28 Jul 2017
Posts: 2
Location: Vanuatu

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar and 20’ container hangar - possible?

Good morning Richard.



Thank you for your detailed reply.

Your first hand knowledge is what was needed thank you.

Yes if the wings actually come all the way to the back of the rudder, then it looks likes as you say the wings and the tail boom will both have to be shortened, which is unfeasible. 



I'm a kiwi pilot flying in the South Pacific Island nation of Vanuatu. Oh World War Two fame as Bali High in the Tales of the South Pacific. Carry my fair share of sick of dying and so many of these jungle villages are completely isolated. THe last dead baby we carried was in a battered old suitcase and its heartbreaking. Done some missionary flying up in PNG so on my days off want to help and fly as much as I can. So with nurse girl friend we would like to do aerial drops to the villages etc.



There is no infrastructure at all here and certainly no hangars at any of the airports for airplanes. At times shipping containers reach the two ports - so a 20 foot container in the 'captial' and the northern 'town' where i am based and one more sent out on the twice a year boat far north would give me three little hangars across the nation.



Had considered modifying a container and will consider that. 40' containers cant be carried by the local barge so that doesnt work either.



A folding wing Kolb that could live in a 20' container, purchased in its own portable container would be greatly appreciated around the world . . . 



Thank you again.

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Yours Faithfully

Paul

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