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clivesutton
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 Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:33 am Post subject: Tri-gear to Mono Conversion |
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G-YETI and its owner is flying, having recently completed 5hrs type-conversion with Andy Draper under the LAA pilot-coaching scheme. Not sure how many have gone in this direction - but i'm keen to try and persevere with it. Compared to a 910lb empty Tri-gear, my 825lb empty Mono performance with gear and flap up is really an improvement.
Essential handling advice from Andy was: 1) stick fully back to keep the tail-wheel in play at TO start - and as soon as the a/c is settled on the ground during landing, 2) gradually let the pressure bring the stick forwards on TO so that its just aft of neutral at unstick speed (44kt in my case), 3) use aileron to counter sidewinds as required - again, to be more or less neutral at un-stick on TO, 4) gradually open the throttle at TO and use sustained bursts of throttle during landing if a balloon occurs . I've also been gradually using the same approach for landing the Mono as i would for a night landing - i.e. gradual reduction of power and trying to land the tail first - rather than definite 'flair' actions, 5) anticipate nose-up at flap/gear lever operation 6) if a bumpy strip launches you into the air close to flying speed on TO, judicious stick forwards can recover the tendency to 'wallow' in ground effect.
We fly a lovely aeroplane whatever type we have. All that development time was worth it . . .
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tennant
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Tri-gear to Mono Conversion |
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And don't forget the 3 most important rules:
1 - keep it straight
2 - keep it straight
3 - keep it straight!!
Have fun.
Barry Tennant
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budyerly(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:12 pm Post subject: Tri-gear to Mono Conversion |
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Way to go Clive. Here in the States our second hand owners rarely call other mono owners or get checked out properly before they have a confidence ruining incident. I’ve even had one myself in the mono I should have not let happen.
I’ve attached a copy of a paper I did some years ago (and frankly lost) for my clients and new mono owners back in 2010 not for anything other than the importance of keeping it straight. As one client said, “I don’t think you emphasize it enough.” You have hit almost all of my points much more succinctly. I’m pretty much in sink with Andy, I just don’t raise the tail as high on takeoff. I’m just aggressive, no down right nasty, about keeping the pitch attitude steady on takeoff.
Congrats Again!
Bud Yerly
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G-YETI and its owner is flying, having recently completed 5hrs type-conversion with Andy Draper under the LAA pilot-coaching scheme. Not sure how many have gone in this direction - but i'm keen to try and persevere with it. Compared to a 910lb empty Tri-gear, my 825lb empty Mono performance with gear and flap up is really an improvement.
Essential handling advice from Andy was: 1) stick fully back to keep the tail-wheel in play at TO start - and as soon as the a/c is settled on the ground during landing, 2) gradually let the pressure bring the stick forwards on TO so that its just aft of neutral at unstick speed (44kt in my case), 3) use aileron to counter sidewinds as required - again, to be more or less neutral at un-stick on TO, 4) gradually open the throttle at TO and use sustained bursts of throttle during landing if a balloon occurs . I've also been gradually using the same approach for landing the Mono as i would for a night landing - i.e. gradual reduction of power and trying to land the tail first - rather than definite 'flair' actions, 5) anticipate nose-up at flap/gear lever operation 6) if a bumpy strip launches you into the air close to flying speed on TO, judicious stick forwards can recover the tendency to 'wallow' in ground effect.
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Fred Klein
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:48 am Post subject: Tri-gear to Mono Conversion |
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Bud…thank you for your insights into mono take offs & landings…I love your writing style…F. | Quote: | On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly(at)msn.com (budyerly(at)msn.com)> wrote:
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