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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: Aerosport Overhead Consol

Hi



I just received my GPS antennas from Stein and would like to hide them inside my Aerosport console. This is something others have done *I think*. If so, does anyone have any pix showing how this was accomplished?



Cheers



Les

Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:37 pm Post subject: Aerosport Overhead Consol

It depends. For an IFR WAAS antenna, I felt it should be like all the factory planes, mounted on the outside, to ensure reception of satellites on the horizon.OTOH, I have my Dynon antenna under the engine cowling, just forward of the firewall.

You could also put the antenna on the top of the tail cone, just behind the baggage compartment..gives a better ground plane.

It all depends on which type of GPS antenna, whether it needs a certain length of coax, like most of the panel mount GPS require, or is like the Dynon, connected via network cable.



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 I just received my GPS antennas from Stein and would like to hide them inside my Aerosport console. This is something others have done *I think*. If so, does anyone have any pix showing how this was accomplished?

 

 Cheers

 

 Les

 

 

 

 

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rvdave

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Aerosport Overhead Console

I have had a non waas antenna mounted  under engine cowl in my 6 for 13 years with no dropouts or problems.  In my 10 I put them both in the Aerosport overhead.  I'm not flying yet but I can tell you that I receive signal and integrity on both receivers when the hangar door is half opened, weird.  Not expecting any problems though.  I'll try to get some photos.

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kearney

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Aerosport Overhead Consol

Hi Kelly



If the fiberglass and non-metallic paint don't interfere with the GPS signal, why not keep them safe and dry in the interior - and get a .00005kt speed boost at no extra cost!



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Les

kearney

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Aerosport Overhead Consol

Hi Dave



I'd be interested in pix. I am not sure I can put a WAAS antenna in the console  due to depth issues. It may be tight mounting with a 90 degree BNC connector. 



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Les



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Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:39 pm Post subject: Aerosport Overhead Consol

Les,My concern is that the overhead is carbon fiber, which is not transparent to GPS, and the WAAS certified antennas are supposed to see some single digit angle to the horizon, and the fact that Cirrus, Cessna/Columbia and such aircraft put the antennas outside. Also, the depth of the overhead is such that you will likely need right angle TNC connectors. Check pricing on them. What you definitely do NOT want to do is hog out some of the foam core of the canopy. The canopy is structural and you and I don't know the design parameters of that structure. I don't know details, but I do know that one of the -10 fatalities was due to a collapsed canopy. I felt more comfortable about just making the hole for coax and attachment screws than something big enough to contain the antenna. Sealing the antenna to the canopy top is rather simple with aircraft RTV.



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 If the fiberglass and non-metallic paint don't interfere with the GPS signal, why not keep them safe and dry in the interior - and get a .00005kt speed boost at no extra cost!

 

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rvdave

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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Aerosport Overhead Consol

 	  kearney wrote: 	
		  Hi Dave



I'd be interested in pix. I am not sure I can put a WAAS antenna in the console  due to depth issues. It may be tight mounting with a 90 degree BNC connector. 

	




Here are some photos I have, hope they help.

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Bob Turner

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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Aerosport Overhead Consol

I installed my 420W antenna externally, because of a (irrational?) fear that some over-zealous faa inspector (either initial a/w, or a ramp check) might complain that I had not followed the installation instructions, which are part of the TSO. I did put it back on the tailcone because Vans seemed so opposed to any holes in the cabin top.

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EdKranz

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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:40 am Post subject: Aerosport Overhead Consol

I also put the GPS antennas on the tailcone directly aft of the fiberglass cabin top for two reasons. First reason was that I wanted to make sure I had a good ground plane, and I didn't want to mess with fabbing something up to fit in the overhead. Second, in IFR flight, I want EVERY possible advantage towards not having equipment failures or signal degradation. As unlikely as it may be, sticking the GPS antenna on the top was one less variable towards that goal. GPS pucks for non-ifr? I'd put those anywhere they get signal!



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 I installed my 420W antenna externally, because of a (irrational?) fear that some over-zealous faa inspector (either initial a/w, or a ramp check) might complain that I had not followed the installation instructions, which are part of the TSO. I did put it back on the tailcone because Vans seemed so opposed to any holes in the cabin top.

 

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rvdave

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Aerosport Overhead Consol

 	  kearney wrote: 	
		  Hi Dave



I'd be interested in pix. I am not sure I can put a WAAS antenna in the console  due to depth issues. It may be tight mounting with a 90 degree BNC connector. 

	


Les, 

The antenna ends up nearly touching the underside of the cabin top and is essentially as high as you can get without being outside of the aircraft but did require the 90 deg fitting.

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