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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:05 pm Post subject: Dents in VS Skin from flush set..... ARGGGGGHHHHHH |
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Alright, I was making great progress and then used my non dominant hand to rivet the second side of the VS skin and managed to make about 6 dents in the skin along the front spar before I realized the poor form and consequent mistake. They are absolutely noticeable. In a "done is better than perfect" moment I kept riveting once I was cooled off about the mistake so that I would have a finished part. Now I am looking for a filler that I can use to make the dents go away before I drill out all the rivets and try a second time with a NEW skin. Is there anyone out there or "has a friend" who has made a mistake like this before and lived to tell the tale while using a filler that has stood the test of time? I have lots of experience with Bondo from my motorcycle painting days and know it is NOT up to this task. Flex/expand/contract/vibrate, all things that would separate brittle Bondo from the skin making it unsuitable for this task. I am hopeful there is a better product out there for aviation before I crack out the drill and try my hand at a second skin?
Thanks,Tim
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:24 pm Post subject: Dents in VS Skin from flush set..... ARGGGGGHHHHHH |
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Leave it be, at least for now.
At least that was my decision when I had some “imperfections”. Don’t worry about fixing dents if it’s just a surface imperfection. Build on and learn from it.
When you get to final assembly (or close to it) look at it again with a fresh set of eyes and decide if you need a new skin or if epoxy and micro is fine. (Heck if you get it painted ask he shop to make it look better if you are concerned. )
Just my 2 cents.
-Brian
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:09 PM Tim Jennings <tjennings07(at)gmail.com (tjennings07(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Alright, I was making great progress and then used my non dominant hand to rivet the second side of the VS skin and managed to make about 6 dents in the skin along the front spar before I realized the poor form and consequent mistake. They are absolutely noticeable. In a "done is better than perfect" moment I kept riveting once I was cooled off about the mistake so that I would have a finished part. Now I am looking for a filler that I can use to make the dents go away before I drill out all the rivets and try a second time with a NEW skin. Is there anyone out there or "has a friend" who has made a mistake like this before and lived to tell the tale while using a filler that has stood the test of time? I have lots of experience with Bondo from my motorcycle painting days and know it is NOT up to this task. Flex/expand/contract/vibrate, all things that would separate brittle Bondo from the skin making it unsuitable for this task. I am hopeful there is a better product out there for aviation before I crack out the drill and try my hand at a second skin?
Thanks,Tim
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Kellym
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1705 Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:34 pm Post subject: Dents in VS Skin from flush set..... ARGGGGGHHHHHH |
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Very good advice. I believe one filler that will work is "Superfill",
which is a mix of epoxy resin and high percentage of micro-balloons.
Available at AC Spruce and similar vendors.
On 5/20/2018 7:21 PM, Brian Lester wrote:
Quote: | Leave it be, at least for now.
At least that was my decision when I had some “imperfections”. Don’t
worry about fixing dents if it’s just a surface imperfection. Build on
and learn from it.
When you get to final assembly (or close to it) look at it again with a
fresh set of eyes and decide if you need a new skin or if epoxy and
micro is fine. (Heck if you get it painted ask he shop to make it look
better if you are concerned. )
Just my 2 cents.
-Brian
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:09 PM Tim Jennings <tjennings07(at)gmail.com
<mailto:tjennings07(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
Alright, I was making great progress and then used my non dominant
hand to rivet the second side of the VS skin and managed to make
about 6 dents in the skin along the front spar before I realized the
poor form and consequent mistake. They are absolutely noticeable.
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Dave Saylor
Joined: 11 Jan 2015 Posts: 209 Location: GILROY, CA
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:44 pm Post subject: Dents in VS Skin from flush set..... ARGGGGGHHHHHH |
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+1 for superfill. It's the "Cadillac of Bondo". Only downside is that it takes a lot longer to cure than polyester--count on at least several hours.
Those dents are like the first door ding on a new car. They hurt the worst but it you'll get past it. Learning how to fix the mistake is pretty valuable.
--Dave
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Jennings <tjennings07(at)gmail.com (tjennings07(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Alright, I was making great progress and then used my non dominant hand to rivet the second side of the VS skin and managed to make about 6 dents in the skin along the front spar before I realized the poor form and consequent mistake. They are absolutely noticeable. In a "done is better than perfect" moment I kept riveting once I was cooled off about the mistake so that I would have a finished part. Now I am looking for a filler that I can use to make the dents go away before I drill out all the rivets and try a second time with a NEW skin. Is there anyone out there or "has a friend" who has made a mistake like this before and lived to tell the tale while using a filler that has stood the test of time? I have lots of experience with Bondo from my motorcycle painting days and know it is NOT up to this task. Flex/expand/contract/vibrate, all things that would separate brittle Bondo from the skin making it unsuitable for this task. I am hopeful there is a better product out there for aviation before I crack out the drill and try my hand at a second skin?
Thanks,Tim
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