Matronics Email Lists :: View topic - Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Europa-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

Hitchflight

Joined: 22 Feb 2018
Posts: 94
Location: Derbyshire, England

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:58 am Post subject: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

https://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/europa-club-safety-advice:-cracked-u-c-frame



The above Safety Advice from the Europa Club was published today.

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

Rick Moss

Joined: 21 Sep 2014
Posts: 96

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

Forgive my ignorance, as a non-builder; the link makes no mention of whether this is applicable to mono or trigear, from which I must interpret that it is applicable to both. Am I therefore correct in assuming that the same frame is fitted to both variants? In which case one must assume that the loads on this frame on a mono are vastly higher than they are on a trigear?

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

Hitchflight

Joined: 22 Feb 2018
Posts: 94
Location: Derbyshire, England

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

Hi Rick



At this time. We do not have enough information to decide.



News on the Europa website and in the Europa Flyer when more emerges. 

Bob

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:59 am Post subject: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

Hi Rick,

Yes I totally agree with your last sentence.  The trouble is that at this

time we do not know for sure which aircraft these cracks may occur in.

Please remember that some Tri gears were Mono's when first flown.  To answer

another of your questions the offending frame is the same on both mono and

trigear.

Please therefore carry out the checks as requested and submit your answers

to the questionnaire to my email address on The Europa Club web site or

magazine.  When we have a reasonable no of answers we will then be able to

decide which a/c are most at risk so that if the LAA/CAA want to issue any

mandatory inspections they will be better informed about which a/c to be

targeted. 

Pete Jeffers (LAA Inspector to the Europa Club)



--

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

no sign of cracks on my mono frame. As I read the request a reply is only required if cracks are found.

"if you find any sign of cracking.  Please also keep the Europa club informed by answering the following questions:-  "

Regards Graeme

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

_________________
Graeme Bird
kit4 (Wagstaff) TBD
Kit3 G-CLXU (Gregory) mono 914 xs Woodcomp
Kit2 G-PATS - (kesterton) Mono Classic 912 warpdrive
Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS 912S, Woodcomp G(@)gdbmk.co.uk

DuaneFamly(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

I simply chose to fill out the form with the information and boldly stating that “I found NO cracks.” Now they can get a feel for what the percentage is and whether it’s worth calling for a fleetwide check. 

But when I first heard of this problem, I immediately checked my plane. Wouldn’t anyone?



Mike Duane

N377EA

Europe XS Conventional Gear

Las Vegas, NV



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 26, 2018, at 6:42 AM, graeme bird <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 no sign of cracks on my mono frame. As I read the request a reply I only required if cracks are found.

 "if you find any sign of cracking.  Please also keep the Europa club informed by answering the following questions:-  "

 

 

 Regards Graeme

 

 --------

 Graeme Bird

 G-UMPY -  Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp SR3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, Smart A3

 350 hours &amp; 6 years on the Mono, 930 total

 g(at)gdbmk.co.uk

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=486557#486557

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:48 am Post subject: Europa Club Safety Advice: Cracked U/C Frame

Dear Graham,

So far all seems OK on the crack front. ie no cracks so far!   However I did

ask for all the questions to be answered regardless of positive or negative.

Please read again on the Europa Club web site.  The reason is not just to

advise of possible cracks but also  to provide comprehensive data for

airworthiness authorities world wide if necessary.

Pete Jeffers LAA rep to the Europa Club



--

- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Europa-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum