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motoadve

Joined: 23 Apr 2009
Posts: 123
Location: Seattle

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:26 am Post subject: CJ6 community

Have had my CJ6 for 8 months now, put about 100hrs.

When is not down for repairs I fly it about 3 times per week, rain or shine, cant have enough of it.



Reflecting on it.

Best bang for the buck in aviation for sure, and the most fun airplane I have flown

Warbird feeling

Easy to fly

A pleasure and fun to fly, specially aerobatics

Amazing sound

Great community

Great looking



But since I got it.

Changed all the air valves, inspected air tanks, still leaks.

Starter valve failed

Trim light failed

Intake tube broke , big hole ,partial in flight failure (after market design to clear the lower cylinders from oil)

Oil leak , loose Cylinders #4 and #5, which I think is very serious, and think it is scary.

Not knowing how many hrs in the engine before overhaul is a mistery.



If it wasnt for this community I think I would have sold my CJ6 by now, since I am not mechanically inclined at all.

People like Doug Sapp, Larry Pine,Craig Paine, Mike and Mike, Tom Elliott, Justin Drafts, Jon Blake, and some others I dont remember their names have been very helpful,specially Mike Michalak and Larry Pine.



Thank you all who are always helping, cant wait fly it again, glad to be part of this community.

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:49 am Post subject: CJ6 community

Good note... yes, owning a warbird can be frustrating!



Soon after I bought my own CJ6, and such mechanical frustrations set in, I started reading scores of old pilot memoirs from WW1 thru VietNam, of all nationalities.

A common thread, across the ages, was how many gremlins appear in every warplane ever to fly!!!

So, it was very comforting that this is a universal experience for all warbirders, past & present... 

It gets better, the more proper TLC you give them---

Justin

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 9:02 PM motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)> wrote:



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 Have had my CJ6 for 8 months now, put about 100hrs.

 When is not down for repairs I fly it about 3 times per week, rain or shine, cant have enough of it.

 

 Reflecting on it.

 Best bang for the buck in aviation for sure, and the most fun airplane I have flown

 Warbird feeling

 Easy to fly

 A pleasure and fun to fly, specially aerobatics

 Amazing sound

 Great community

 Great looking

 

 But since I got it.

 Changed all the air valves, inspected air tanks, still leaks.

 Starter valve failed

 Trim light failed

 Intake tube broke , big hole ,partial in flight failure (after market design to clear the lower cylinders from oil)

 Oil leak , loose Cylinders #4 and #5, which I think is very serious, and think it is scary.

 Not knowing how many hrs in the engine before overhaul is a mistery.

 

 If it wasnt for this community I think I would have sold my CJ6 by now, since I am not mechanically inclined at all.

 People like Doug Sapp, Larry Pine,Craig Paine, Mike and Mike, Tom Elliott, Justin Drafts, Jon Blake, and some others I dont remember their names have been very helpful,specially Mike Michalak and Larry Pine.

 

 Thank you all who are always helping, cant wait fly it again, glad to be part of this community.

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:14 am Post subject: CJ6 community

The basic premise of the CJ is that we fly it to see what needs to be fixed next. 



If we’re not repairing something, we’re looking to see what's most likely to be an issue at sometime in the near future. There is no way around this. Recall that each CJ while in China used to have a crew that keep it going. Here in the States, it’s mostly each of us individually. For those who do not like to turn a wrench, this may not be the best airplane. 



Of course, the most problematic part of the CJ is the pneumatic system. Here, replacing things like check valves on a schedule and before they go south is well worth the effort. If you have not replaced one of these in five years, remove and open it up to see what I mean. 



If it wasn’t for the many members of the CJ community, who are so very generous with their time and knowledge, I’d still be flying a Cirrus. 



Warren Hill

N464TW

Mesa, AZ

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		   On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:26 AM, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr> wrote:

 

 

 

 Have had my CJ6 for 8 months now, put about 100hrs.

 When is not down for repairs I fly it about 3 times per week, rain or shine, cant have enough of it.

 

 Reflecting on it.

 Best bang for the buck in aviation for sure, and the most fun airplane I have flown

 Warbird feeling

 Easy to fly

 A pleasure and fun to fly, specially aerobatics

 Amazing sound

 Great community

 Great looking

 

 But since I got it.

 Changed all the air valves, inspected air tanks, still leaks.

 Starter valve failed

 Trim light failed

 Intake tube broke , big hole ,partial in flight failure (after market design to clear the lower cylinders from oil)

 Oil leak , loose Cylinders #4 and #5, which I think is very serious, and think it is scary.

 Not knowing how many hrs in the engine before overhaul is a mistery.

 

 If it wasnt for this community I think I would have sold my CJ6 by now, since I am not mechanically inclined at all.

 People like Doug Sapp, Larry Pine,Craig Paine, Mike and Mike, Tom Elliott, Justin Drafts, Jon Blake, and some others I dont remember their names have been very helpful,specially Mike Michalak and Larry Pine.

 

 Thank you all who are always helping, cant wait fly it again, glad to be part of this community.

 

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 www.Backcountry182.com

 Cessna 182 P

 CJ -6

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489737#489737

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Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:27 am Post subject: CJ6 community

Wish I could afford a Cirrus.



On Thursday, June 20, 2019, Warren Hill <hill(at)doctor-hill.com> wrote:



[quote] 



 The basic premise of the CJ is that we fly it to see what needs to be

 fixed next.



 If we’re not repairing something, we’re looking to see what's most likely

 to be an issue at sometime in the near future. There is no way around this.

 Recall that each CJ while in China used to have a crew that keep it going

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:50 am Post subject: CJ6 community

Dawg,

You’re too badass to ever own a Cirrus!!!! “A man has to know his limitations”. 😎

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On Jun 19, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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On Thursday, June 20, 2019, Warren Hill <hill(at)doctor-hill.com (hill(at)doctor-hill.com)> wrote:

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 The basic premise of the CJ is that we fly it to see what needs to be fixed next. 

 If we’re not repairing something, we’re looking to see what's most likely to be an issue at sometime in the near future. There is no way around this. Recall that each CJ while in China used to have a crew that keep it going. Here in the States, it’s mostly each of us individually. For those who do not like to turn a wrench, this may not be the best airplane. 

 Of course, the most problematic part of the CJ is the pneumatic system. Here, replacing things like check valves on a schedule and before they go south is well worth the effort. If you have not replaced one of these in five years, remove and open it up to see what I mean. 

 If it wasn’t for the many members of the CJ community, who are so very generous with their time and knowledge, I’d still be flying a Cirrus. 

 Warren Hill

 N464TW

 Mesa, AZ

 > On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:26 AM, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)> wrote:

 > 

 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "motoadve" <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)>

 > 

 > Have had my CJ6 for 8 months now, put about 100hrs.

 > When is not down for repairs I fly it about 3 times per week, rain or shine, cant have enough of it.

 > 

 > Reflecting on it.

 > Best bang for the buck in aviation for sure, and the most fun airplane I have flown

 > Warbird feeling

 > Easy to fly

 > A pleasure and fun to fly, specially aerobatics

 > Amazing sound

 > Great community

 > Great looking

 > 

 > But since I got it.

 > Changed all the air valves, inspected air tanks, still leaks.

 > Starter valve failed

 > Trim light failed

 > Intake tube broke , big hole ,partial in flight failure (after market design to clear the lower cylinders from oil)

 > Oil leak , loose Cylinders #4 and #5, which I think is very serious, and think it is scary.

 > Not knowing how many hrs in the engine before overhaul is a mistery.

 > 

 > If it wasnt for this community I think I would have sold my CJ6 by now, since I am not mechanically inclined at all.

 > People like Doug Sapp, Larry Pine,Craig Paine, Mike and Mike, Tom Elliott, Justin Drafts, Jon Blake, and some others I dont remember their names have been very helpful,specially Mike Michalak and Larry Pine.

 > 

 > Thank you all who are always helping, cant wait fly it again, glad to be part of this community.

 > 

 > --------

 > www.Backcountry182.com

 > Cessna 182 P

 > CJ -6

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > Read this topic online here:

 > 

 > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489737#489737

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > 

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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:28 am Post subject: CJ6 community

Another place to look for air leaks is in the hard lines...work hardened, aged, corroded, abused aluminum lines, B-nuts, fittings that are mostly original.  Look for cracking on the inside of bends, especially around any of the items that are typically replaced, or have to accommodate engine movement.  In disturbing lines to replace/inspect, repositioning may have cracked a line...the short lines especially.  Some of those cracks are only found with soapy solutions or higher tech, you won’t hear them when the crack is tight.  B-nut/fitting cross threading or stripping is another failure item (my ham-handed specialty).  For all these, suggest having a stock of new tubing (generic aviation), Chinese B-nuts/sleeves/screw in nipple fittings of various angles/ends (cone/pipe)/branches, tubing bender, cutter and flaring tool.



.. and never act on Yak-list advice until the cycle completes with the arrival of completely contradictory advice.  



Enjoy the wrenching (and flying).



Rich 



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stephen.hayne

Joined: 01 Nov 2013
Posts: 59
Location: United States

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:30 am Post subject: Re: CJ6 community

I have learned so much wrenching on this bird (enjoyed every minute!), with guidance from friend Dale and everything I've read here.  Took 4 years to rebuild/assemble, and I am comfortable with everything except the engine... even after 100 hrs, it is still an unknown quantity, and I fly it as such, ever ready to put it down as safely as my skill level allows.



There is always something to learn about how to fix!



BTW, just serviced my dessicant after approx. 100 hrs (dry Colorado), and found pads clean and dry downstream of the dessicant (put in new).  I've used CorrosionX and all tanks are corrosion free (installed after overhaul/test).  The one valve I've looked at since rebuild was also still corrosion free.

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