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Is an ATC/ATO Fuse Block a Realistic Single Pt. of Failure

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:32 pm    Post subject: Is an ATC/ATO Fuse Block a Realistic Single Pt. of Failure Reply with quote

At 02:09 PM 1/22/2020, you wrote:
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "markfw" <markwheelermd(at)icloud.com>

I am building an electrically dependent airplane and I have used almost entirely fused circuits as Bob has suggested.

So, I will be using two ATC/ATO fuse blocks tied together for my endurance bus. THEORETICALLY each is a single point of failure.

It's difficult to imagine how an entire fuse block could fail if the nuts on the terminals are properly applied. Should I worry about this? What are people's opinions?

Thanks.

Mark

TWO fuse blocks on the endurance bus? What
loads run from this bus?

Those fuse blocks are components of
a bus-structure . . . generally considered
10 to the minus 9th reliability, assuming
no errors of assembly.

After installation of the fuse block
feeder nuts, tighten snuggly and put
a drop of super-glue at the juncture
of the stud and nut. Alternatively
you could replace the existing nut
with an elastic stop-nut. I think that
stud is a 10-24 thread . . . most ACE
hardware stores stock these nuts for
about $0.60 each.

Beyond that simple precaution, there's
not much to worry about as long as you
pay attention to details of assembly
during installation.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:05 pm    Post subject: Is an ATC/ATO Fuse Block a Realistic Single Pt. of Failure Reply with quote

At 02:09 PM 1/22/2020, you wrote:
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "markfw" <markwheelermd(at)icloud.com>

I am building an electrically dependent airplane and I have used almost entirely fused circuits as Bob has suggested.

So, I will be using two ATC/ATO fuse blocks tied together for my endurance bus. THEORETICALLY each is a single point of failure.

It's difficult to imagine how an entire fuse block could fail if the nuts on the terminals are properly applied. Should I worry about this? What are people's opinions?

Thanks.

Mark

TWO fuse blocks on the endurance bus? What
loads run from this bus?

Those fuse blocks are components of
a bus-structure . . . generally considered
10 to the minus 9th reliability, assuming
no errors of assembly.

After installation of the fuse block
feeder nuts, tighten snuggly and put
a drop of super-glue at the juncture
of the stud and nut. Alternatively
you could replace the existing nut
with an elastic stop-nut. I think that
stud is a 10-24 thread . . . most ACE
hardware stores stock these nuts for
about $0.60 each.

Beyond that simple precaution, there's
not much to worry about as long as you
pay attention to details of assembly
during installation.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Is an ATC/ATO Fuse Block a Realistic Single Pt. of Fai Reply with quote

Bob,

You are right I should have called it my e-bus.

I have actually merged my endurance bus and e-bus. I had extra slots in my fuse block after wiring the EFI fuses. With the new low-power electronics my "other instruments" power draw in endurance mode is only 1.9 amps of the total 9.15 amps power draw, so I think I can afford the power draw and it is simpler.

Those instruments are (currently):

GRT EIS
B & C Warning LED
Trim servo
COM1 - MGL V6 Radio
Sandia Mode "C" Transponder - STX165R
uAvionix - SKYFYX GPS
Bose Headphones (2)
uAvionics ADS In/Out - EchoUAT
MGL ASV-1 (ASI, VSI, Alt Combo) & Altitude encoder
EFI Monitor Gauge

With this setup I am visible to, and can talk to, the world, I still have traffic, weather, etc on a tablet on battery, and I can monitor my engine and the EFI.

With my dual battery, 24 amp hour reserve I should have a safe, low stress flight for at least 2 hours in an ALT OUT situation. I am day, VFR so I am comfortable with this. I have been trying to follow your flight planning advice, and I thank you for it.

I am working on my FMEA.

Mark


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