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GBWFH2010

Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 38

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:04 am Post subject: Classic throttle cables

I had the misfortune to suffer a throttle cable break last week, fortunately whilst on the ground. 

It would seem that Europa only stock one size of cable which are designed

 for the XS and these are much longer than the original Classic cables. The problem is not the inner as these can be cut, but the outer which is about 

30cm too long. At present my only solution is to use the new inners with the

Old outers, but I just wondered if

 anyone with a Classic has encountered this problem and if so how you resolved the situation.

Dave at Europa is investigating as he was unaware the Classic required shorter cables, but this does not help at the moment!

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Gordon Grant

G-BWFH

ptag.dev(at)talktalk.net
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:07 am Post subject: Classic throttle cables

Hi!  Gordon,

I never understood it possible to have a Europa throttle cable too long?

Mine went through the firewall and took a huge loop( almost to the front of

the cowl before returning back to the carbs for easy and free operation for

alignment to the carbs point of entry.( no clips or tie wraps needed)

Regards

Bob Harrison  EX G-PTAG.



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peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:00 am Post subject: Classic throttle cables

Solid core (yes i did, also on the ground, and the friction did not allow the throttle to go full open)? Or original stranded?



I have reverted to teflon coated stranded inners (bicycle brake cable core), and find it is now very smooth and free.



Cheers,

Pete



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 I had the misfortune to suffer a throttle cable break last week, fortunately whilst on the ground. 

 It would seem that Europa only stock one size of cable which are designed

 for the XS and these are much longer than the original Classic cables. The problem is not the inner as these can be cut, but the outer which is about 

 30cm too long. At present my only solution is to use the new inners with the

 Old outers, but I just wondered if

 anyone with a Classic has encountered this problem and if so how you resolved the situation.

 Dave at Europa is investigating as he was unaware the Classic required shorter cables, but this does not help at the moment!

 

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GBWFH2010

Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 38

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Classic throttle cables

Thanks Bob. Do you have a picture of your engine compartment showing 

How your cables were routed?



Regards



Gordon

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Gordon Grant

G-BWFH

ptag.dev(at)talktalk.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:40 am Post subject: Classic throttle cables

Hi!Gordon,

No I don't have any pics or the plane any longer but I recall the cables

went forward from the standard quadrant box on the XS cockpit module through

the firewall and curved gently upwards to lay on the top of the engine,

forwards and then aligned backwards to the carb connections.  They appeared

ridiculously long but no sharp or forced bends and no ties gave a completely

free movement. Once positioned they stayed throttle set by the friction

clamped on the actual throttle lever. But as you said they need to fail in

full throttle mode.

I also only oiled the actuating ends ......none down the cable length

.....it only makes drag and collects dust. Mine were bicycle multistrand

cables , not the solid single wire type.



Hope this helps.

Regards

Bob Harrison    Ex G-PTAG.



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GBWFH2010

Joined: 31 Jul 2011
Posts: 38

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Classic throttle cables

Thanks Bob, that is really useful.



Regards



Gordon

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Gordon Grant

G-BWFH

wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:23 am Post subject: Classic throttle cables

while we're on the topic, what is the recommended cable lubricant for South Florida conditions?

thanks

Will

William Daniell



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 Thanks Bob, that is really useful.

 

 Regards

 

 Gordon

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Classic throttle cables

Factor 40.



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n7188u

Joined: 15 Nov 2015
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Classic throttle cables

William,



I always used tri-flow for lubricating hinges and control cables with good results.



In many aircraft the recommendation is not to use lubricants except for silicone based dry sprays to prevent accumulation of dirt (its an AD in the Mooneys) but in fiorida you have to use something that protects metal so i found tri-flow to be a good compromise.



Chris

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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:06 am Post subject: Classic throttle cables

Thanks chris



William Daniell

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 William,

 

 I always used tri-flow for lubricating hinges and control cables with good results.

 

 In many aircraft the recommendation is not to use lubricants except for silicone based dry sprays to prevent accumulation of dirt (its an AD in the Mooneys) but in fiorida you have to use something that protects metal so i found tri-flow to be a good compromise.

 

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spcialeffects

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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Classic throttle cables

Hey Gordon. 

Just cut the new cables to suit! That’s what I did on my classic with XS FWF (both throttle and choke) and have had no trouble at all.



Regards

Frank X

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