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Installed new battery, Bus voltage went up over 15volts

 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:53 am    Post subject: Installed new battery, Bus voltage went up over 15volts Reply with quote

On 9/15/2020 9:22 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
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<Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com>

I am running a Z-14 electrical system with dual batts/alts/buses. I
recently changed out an old Odyssey 680 for a new one after 4+ years
of service because  it's fully charged, no load voltage fell to 12.5
volts.  I swapped the battery positions as I put in the new one per my
normal procedure.

On the 2nd leg of the first flight after the swap I noticed that the
bus with the new battery was running slightly over 15 volts. Normally
it  runs between 14.5 and 14.7.  After some switching of avionics and
other components, I took it off line.

Is there any obvious reason a new battery would cause a bus to
suddenly run at a higher voltage when at cruise and presumably the
power is being supplied by an alternator and the voltage controlled by
an B&C regulator?  15 volts is too high a charging voltage for an
Odyssey per their user doc.

My inclination is to adjust the regulator but I don't recall having to
do this with past battery changes or swaps (the regulator is really
hard to access so there's that too).

Thoughts and opinions welcome.

Bill "everytime I get comfortable with a system something new pops up"
Watson
Seems unlikely that the battery change would cause it, but easy enough

to verify, if you still have the old battery. Just return everything to
pre-replacement configuration & re-check.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:50 am    Post subject: Installed new battery, Bus voltage went up over 15volts Reply with quote

Bill,
Thinking out loud here:
The only way to get voltage that high is from the alternator (kinda obvious) and the thing that controls the alternator is the regulator (again, obvious) therefore we might concentrate on the regulator. (I know, brilliant deductive reasoning Wink
I'm not familiar with the B&C regulator but I think it has a voltage-sense terminal. Any chance something weird happened with the sense lead? If the regulator is not getting accurate voltage signal it might over-control the field??
Anecdote:
A few years ago a friend has a similar but not identical problem. The master had been left on and drained the battery. The battery was removed and charged for an hour or two outside the airplane. He re-installed the battery and flew the plane and the voltage went crazy and fried his avionics stack ($$ouch!$$). There was no over-voltage protection module.
We have never come up with a scenario that explains the failure. (This is probably due to incomplete information regarding the details of the event. I don't have first-hand knowledge of the details, so when we discuss it over beers, the details get a little "fuzzy".)
I'm interested in some/any hypothesis that might explain that behavior. It might be relevant to the situation at hand.


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On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 07:35:13 AM PDT, Bill Watson <mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:




--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)>

I am running a Z-14 electrical system with dual batts/alts/buses. I

recently changed out an old Odyssey 680 for a new one after 4+ years of

service because it's fully charged, no load voltage fell to 12.5

volts. I swapped the battery positions as I put in the new one per my

normal procedure.

On the 2nd leg of the first flight after the swap I noticed that the bus

with the new battery was running slightly over 15 volts. Normally it

runs between 14.5 and 14.7. After some switching of avionics and other

components, I took it off line.

Is there any obvious reason a new battery would cause a bus to suddenly

run at a higher voltage when at cruise and presumably the power is being

supplied by an alternator and the voltage controlled by an B&C

regulator? 15 volts is too high a charging voltage for an Odyssey per

their user doc.

My inclination is to adjust the regulator but I don't recall having to

do this with past battery changes or swaps (the regulator is really hard

to access so there's that too).

Thoughts and opinions welcome.

Bill "everytime I get comfortable with a system something new pops up"

Watson

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