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erik(at)erikdahlbeck.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:15 am Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

Hello again,



One hopefully simple question: How do you best hoist (or jack) a Europa 

Trigear for landing gear maintenance?



At some point on the fuselage? On big cushioned plates under the wings, 

centered under the main spar?



Also, is it safe to lift the nose wheel by pushing down the rear part of 

the fuselage, perhaps using a wide collar placed just ahead of the 

thinnest point, strapped to a weight or attaching point on the floor?

Sincerely,



Erik Gunneland DahlbÃ¤ck

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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:47 am Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

HI Erik,

  Use an aluminium or steel rod, can't remember the diameter, and push into the leg, first remove the cotter pin. Length should be at least 50cm. then jack it up with your hydraulic jack. You can now remove the wheel up to the jack.

  Now place a block of wood under the leg end and lower the jack and remove it, and the wheel.

  For the nose  gear I had an eye bolt mounted in the garage floor. Then used a  ratcheting strap just 

  ahead of the fin, looped through the eye bolt, and lowered the tail that way. Or get someone to push down the tail.

  Karl

  

  

 

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 Hello again,

 

 One hopefully simple question: How do you best hoist (or jack) a Europa 

 Trigear for landing gear maintenance?

 

 At some point on the fuselage? On big cushioned plates under the wings, 

 centered under the main spar?

 

 Also, is it safe to lift the nose wheel by pushing down the rear part of 

 the fuselage, perhaps using a wide collar placed just ahead of the 

 thinnest point, strapped to a weight or attaching point on the floor?

 

 

 Sincerely,

 

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peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:28 am Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

an option to get everything off the ground (if ever needed) is to hoist the plane from the top two engine mounts (on theÂ  fuse frame side of the rubbers) using straps, and support the tail.

Cheers,

Pete



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 Hello again,

 

 One hopefully simple question: How do you best hoist (or jack) a Europa 

 Trigear for landing gear maintenance?

 

 At some point on the fuselage? On big cushioned plates under the wings, 

 centered under the main spar?

 

 Also, is it safe to lift the nose wheel by pushing down the rear part of 

 the fuselage, perhaps using a wide collar placed just ahead of the 

 thinnest point, strapped to a weight or attaching point on the floor?

 

 

 Sincerely,

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:08 pm Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

Thanks,

       

       Am I correct in assuming that the aforementioned metal rod (would       a sturdy tube do?) goes in where the attachment for the wheel       pants goes in? Or does that one somehow fit into something else       that is mounted within the wheel axis? (please see attached photo)

       

       Any other options BTW? What if you needed to work on the landing       gear strut for an example, and didn't want the fuselage to be       standing on it?

       

       I saw that suggestion about suspending the fuselage from the       engine mounts and the tail. My local mechanic who's helping me       with all this wasn't very fond at all of that idea.

       

       / Erik

       

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		                 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}                 HI Erik,

                Use an aluminium or steel rod, can't remember the diameter, and         push into the leg, first remove the cotter pin. Length should be         at least 50cm. then jack it up with your hydraulic jack. You can         now remove the wheel up to the jack.

                Now place a block of wood under the leg end and lower the jack         and remove it, and the wheel.

                For the nose  gear I had an eye bolt mounted in the garage         floor. Then used a  ratcheting strap just 

                ahead of the fin, looped through the eye bolt, and lowered the         tail that way. Or get someone to push down the tail.

                Karl

                           

         

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                 Hello again,

                 

                 One hopefully simple question: How do you best hoist (or                 jack) a Europa 

                 Trigear for landing gear maintenance?

                 

                 At some point on the fuselage? On big cushioned plates                 under the wings, 

                 centered under the main spar?

                 

                 Also, is it safe to lift the nose wheel by pushing down                 the rear part of 

                 the fuselage, perhaps using a wide collar placed just                 ahead of the 

                 thinnest point, strapped to a weight or attaching point                 on the floor?

                 

                 

                 Sincerely,

                 

                 Erik Gunneland Dahlbäck

                 

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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:19 pm Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

To raise the nose wheel I use at least two 30 liter cans of fuel/water to weigh down the tail with a padded strop over the fuselage in front of the fin. 

To service main wheels I use the method described using a piece of steel tube pushed in to the axle, a jack and a piece of 1 inch ply to support the leg

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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:30 am Post subject: Re: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

To supplement the taildragger modification we have developed (apologies to those who await more information on this topic), we developed a clamp on jacking stand.  The problem with using the axle hole is that you cannot get the wheel and brakes completely off the aircraft.



We have a design that clamps on, using the slight taper (of the original Europa legs or the Acroflight ones) to ensure it doesn't slide.



Picture attached.



It can be used with a trolley jack or small bottle jack.

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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:34 am Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

Hi JOhn,

  A very neat design, but wouldn't work with leg fairings in place and requires a certain amount of expertise and time to manufacture. The axle hole solution is very simple and cheap, and gets the wheel off completely in a matter of minutes. Either way, it is  useful to have a means of changing a wheel when touring.

  Karl

  

  

 

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 To supplement the taildragger modification we have developed (apologies to those who await more information on this topic), we developed a clamp on jacking stand.  The problem with using the axle hole is that you cannot get the wheel and brakes completely off  the aircraft.

 

 We have a design that clamps on, using the slight taper (of the original Europa legs or the Acroflight ones) to ensure it doesn't slide.

 

 Picture attached.

 

 It can be used with a trolley jack or small bottle jack.

 

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 Europa XS trigear G-IPOD

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

In my effort to prepare info for second hand owners of the Europa, I found the following info I did some time ago.



I quickly updated it to add some newer information for folks to consider as most A&P mechanics have no idea what to do with a Europa when the pilot/owner non builder is confronted with something as simple as a tire change or annual service.



I hope this attachment is of some service.



Bud Yerly

Custom Flight Creations, Inc.

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erik(at)erikdahlbeck.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:58 am Post subject: How to properly hoist a Europa Trigear

Many thanks, Bud



Last week me and our local mechanic used just that tube/bar into the 

wheel method and it worked great for getting the mains off and back on. 

This week it's time for the nose wheel.



Now, my Europa has a self-retracting (spring-loaded) tail tie-down. I'm 

unsure whether this is standard or something that the builder came up 

with himself (as I recall, it might be custom for this a/c individual). 

Any idea if such a tie-down would be safe to use for raising the nose gear?



I'll sure check with the builder as well, but any thoughts would be welcome.



/ Erik



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 In my effort to prepare info for second hand owners of the Europa, I found the following info I did some time ago.



 I quickly updated it to add some newer information for folks to consider as most A&P mechanics have no idea what to do with a Europa when the pilot/owner non builder is confronted with something as simple as a tire change or annual service.



 I hope this attachment is of some service.



 Bud Yerly

 Custom Flight Creations, Inc.





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