 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Bob H
Joined: 01 Dec 2006
Posts: 43
|
 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:37 am Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/07/20 |
 |
|
I believe that the early Pulsar had added plies in critical areas to accept higher loads of a 912 than the initial design with a 582 engine. I don’t know the exact details of the beef up. But as Mike indicated, messing with the design can make
for regrets in added weight and insufficient strength improvement..
Bob H
| Quote: | On Oct 7, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
*
==================================================
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
==================================================
Today's complete Pulsar-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Pulsar-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 20-10-07&Archive=Pulsar
Text Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 20-10-07&Archive=Pulsar
================================================
EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
================================================
----------------------------------------------------------
Pulsar-List Digest Archive
---
Total Messages Posted Wed 10/07/20: 2
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 09:47 AM - "Beefing Up" (Yellowhammer)
2. 05:35 PM - Re: "Beefing Up" (Michael Cowan)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 09:47:17 AM PST US
Subject: "Beefing Up"
From: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net>
Greetings Folks,
Read an ad for a Pulsar Kit number 1 for sale and it said it had a beefed up fuselage.
Was just curious as to how folks are beefing up their fuselages or if
anyone has beefed up other parts of their planes.
If so, what did you do to make it stronger?
Thanks,
Yellowhammer
--------
J.M. Oyler "Clyde"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=498687#498687
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:35:45 PM PST US
From: Michael Cowan <mikey.flyer53(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Beefing Up"
I=99ve built in a couple of hard points to accommodate an over-the-sh
oulder
angle for the safety harness and a couple to allow removal of the seat
back. The technique is similar to the one used to install the engine
mounts. The main difference is that the engine mounts transfer load
directly to the embedded unidirectional glass. What that means to me, an
amateur builder, is that my mods need to be conservative - in terms of
structural integrity. Because these mods were important to me, I paid the
penalty of a slight weight hit in order to beef that structure up. My
advice would be to build the plane exactly as it was designed. If there
=99s
a standard feature you just can=99t live with, seek the advice of an
experienced builder before even contemplating a change.
Best, Mike Cowan Pulsar Series 2.5
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:50 PM Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net> wrote:
>
> Greetings Folks,
>
> Read an ad for a Pulsar Kit number 1 for sale and it said it had a beefed
> up fuselage. Was just curious as to how folks are beefing up their
> fuselages or if anyone has beefed up other parts of their planes.
>
>
> If so, what did you do to make it stronger?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yellowhammer
>
> --------
> J.M. Oyler "Clyde"
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=498687#498687
>
>
===========
===========
===========
===========
===========
>
>
|
| | - The Matronics Pulsar-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
gregsmi
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Posts: 268
Location: Topeka, KS
|
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:22 am Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/07/20 |
|
|
The fuselage and tail surfaces were made with heavier glass to take the additional loading. I have the spec somewhere. The spars were also made for the load. Sonya studied the design and and came up with a way to beef up the original structure but it had to be done before assembly started. You could not take a finished aircraft and retro fit her mods.
Greg
-----Original Message----
From: Bob Hartunian <bobh5(at)earthlink.net>
To: Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2020 10:35 am
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/07/20
--> Pulsar-List message posted by: Bob Hartunian <bobh5(at)earthlink.net (bobh5(at)earthlink.net)>
I believe that the early Pulsar had added plies in critical areas to accept higher loads of a 912 than the initial design with a 582 engine. I don’t know the exact details of the beef up. But as Mike indicated, messing with the design can make
for regrets in added weight and insufficient strength improvement..
Bob H
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
>
> *
>
> =========================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =========================
>
> Today's complete Pulsar-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pulsar-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2020-10-07&Archive=Pulsar
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter=2020-10-07&Archive=Pulsar
>
>
> =======================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> =======================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pulsar-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Wed 10/07/20: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 09:47 AM - "Beefing Up" (Yellowhammer)
> 2. 05:35 PM - Re: "Beefing Up" (Michael Cowan)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:47:17 AM PST US
> Subject: "Beefing Up"
> From: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>
>
>
> Greetings Folks,
>
> Read an ad for a Pulsar Kit number 1 for sale and it said it had a beefed up fuselage.
> Was just curious as to how folks are beefing up their fuselages or if
> anyone has beefed up other parts of their planes.
>
>
> If so, what did you do to make it stronger?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yellowhammer
>
> --------
> J.M. Oyler "Clyde"
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=498687#498687
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:35:45 PM PST US
> From: Michael Cowan <mikey.flyer53(at)gmail.com (mikey.flyer53(at)gmail.com)>
> Subject: Re: "Beefing Up"
>
> I=99ve built in a couple of hard points to accommodate an over-the-sh
> oulder
> angle for the safety harness and a couple to allow removal of the seat
> back. The technique is similar to the one used to install the engine
> mounts. The main difference is that the engine mounts transfer load
> directly to the embedded unidirectional glass. What that means to me, an
> amateur builder, is that my mods need to be conservative - in terms of
> structural integrity. Because these mods were important to me, I paid the
> penalty of a slight weight hit in order to beef that structure up. My
> advice would be to build the plane exactly as it was designed. If there
> =99s
> a standard feature you just can=99t live with, seek the advice of an
> experienced builder before even contemplating a change.
> Best, Mike Cowan Pulsar Series 2.5
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:50 PM Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:
>
>>
>> Greetings Folks,
>>
>> Read an ad for a Pulsar Kit number 1 for sale and it said it had a beefed
>> up fuselage. Was just curious as to how folks are beefing up their
>> fuselages or if anyone has beefed up other parts of their planes.
>>
>>
>> If so, what did you do to make it stronger?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Yellowhammer
>>
>> --------
>> J.M. Oyler "Clyde"
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=498687#498687
>>
>>
> ===========
> ===========
> ===========
> ===========
> ===========
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
=================
Email Forum -
br>
,
AQ,
vigator?Pulsar-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List
=================
ATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
!
/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
=================
W MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
=================
tribution Web Site -
p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
ntribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
=================
| | - The Matronics Pulsar-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
alan99gill(at)yahoo.co.uk
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:16 am Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/07/20 |
|
|
If I remember correctly, the 912 fuselage was made of heaver composite fiberglass compared to the 582 model.
Alan Gill
UK Pulsar Support
On Thursday, 8 October 2020, 16:45:00 BST, Bob Hartunian <bobh5(at)earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Pulsar-List message posted by: Bob Hartunian <bobh5(at)earthlink.net (bobh5(at)earthlink.net)>
I believe that the early Pulsar had added plies in critical areas to accept higher loads of a 912 than the initial design with a 582 engine. I don’t know the exact details of the beef up. But as Mike indicated, messing with the design can make
for regrets in added weight and insufficient strength improvement..
Bob H
| Quote: | =========================
|
| Quote: | Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
|
| Quote: | =========================
|
| Quote: | Today's complete Pulsar-List Digest can also be found in either of the
|
| Quote: | two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
|
| Quote: | in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
|
| Quote: | and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
|
| Quote: | of the Pulsar-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
|
| Quote: | such as Notepad or with a web browser.
|
| Quote: | =======================
|
| Quote: | EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
|
| Quote: | =======================
|
| Quote: | ----------------------------------------------------------
|
| Quote: | Pulsar-List Digest Archive
|
| Quote: | Total Messages Posted Wed 10/07/20: 2
|
| Quote: | ----------------------------------------------------------
|
| Quote: | Today's Message Index:
|
| Quote: | ----------------------
|
| Quote: | 1. 09:47 AM - "Beefing Up" (Yellowhammer)
|
| Quote: | 2. 05:35 PM - Re: "Beefing Up" (Michael Cowan)
|
| Quote: | ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
|
| Quote: | Time: 09:47:17 AM PST US
|
| Quote: | Subject: "Beefing Up"
|
| Quote: | Read an ad for a Pulsar Kit number 1 for sale and it said it had a beefed up fuselage.
|
| Quote: | Was just curious as to how folks are beefing up their fuselages or if
|
| Quote: | anyone has beefed up other parts of their planes.
|
| Quote: | If so, what did you do to make it stronger?
|
| Quote: | J.M. Oyler "Clyde"
|
| Quote: | Read this topic online here:
|
| Quote: | ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
|
| Quote: | Time: 05:35:45 PM PST US
|
| Quote: | Subject: Re: "Beefing Up"
|
| Quote: | I=99ve built in a couple of hard points to accommodate an over-the-sh
|
| Quote: | angle for the safety harness and a couple to allow removal of the seat
|
| Quote: | back. The technique is similar to the one used to install the engine
|
| Quote: | mounts. The main difference is that the engine mounts transfer load
|
| Quote: | directly to the embedded unidirectional glass. What that means to me, an
|
| Quote: | amateur builder, is that my mods need to be conservative - in terms of
|
| Quote: | structural integrity. Because these mods were important to me, I paid the
|
| Quote: | penalty of a slight weight hit in order to beef that structure up. My
|
| Quote: | advice would be to build the plane exactly as it was designed. If there
|
| Quote: | a standard feature you just can=99t live with, seek the advice of an
|
| Quote: | experienced builder before even contemplating a change.
|
| Quote: | Best, Mike Cowan Pulsar Series 2.5
|
| Quote: | > Greetings Folks,
|
| Quote: | > Read an ad for a Pulsar Kit number 1 for sale and it said it had a beefed
|
| Quote: | > up fuselage. Was just curious as to how folks are beefing up their
|
| Quote: | > fuselages or if anyone has beefed up other parts of their planes.
|
| Quote: | > If so, what did you do to make it stronger?
|
| Quote: | > J.M. Oyler "Clyde"
|
| Quote: | > Read this topic online here:
|
http:/=====================
http://forums.matronics.com
= --> http://www.matronics.==
| | - The Matronics Pulsar-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
