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 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:27 am Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/16/21 |
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George
As your question implies, it is very important to determine what materials were used so that an appropriate repair can be made. Assume you checked the Aircraft logbook and there is no documentation re the covering process?
I recommend you call the Consolidated Aircraft Coatings folks. They hold the STC for both Poly-fiber (formerly Stits) and Ceconite and can walk you through figuring out if one of these products was used. Speak with the experts.
Though similar, Poly-fiber and Ceconite use different products for application. Each offers two fabric weights (Light weight usually used for small patches). Additionally, each has two options for the finish coating which dictates the repair process.
You can go to their web site and download the manual for each. Their manuals simply layout the process and products used. There is a chapter detailing how to make repairs for each.
There ARE OTHER products that may have been used! Being Experimental, the builder could have used ANYTHING.
Cheers
[quote] On Nov 17, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Kitfox-List Digest Server <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
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Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
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Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 21-11-16&Archive=Kitfox
Text Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 21-11-16&Archive=Kitfox
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Kitfox-List Digest Archive
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Total Messages Posted Tue 11/16/21: 2
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 07:09 AM - Re: Canvas Cover (Michael Gibbs)
2. 07:34 AM - Re: Canvas Cover (Robert Toth)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 07:09:00 AM PST US
From: Michael Gibbs <michaelgibbs(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Canvas Cover
Both my Model IV and Series 7 Kitfoxes use PolyFiber.
Mike
Phoenix, AZ
> On Nov 16, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Kirby Cramer <kitfox(at)mcn.org> wrote:
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> Hi George,
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> Mine was Ceconite (1992 Kitfox Model 4) which used the Stitts Poly Fiber system
for adhesive and cover.
> I think Stitts and Ceconite are similar. Flew it today, about 525 hours on Subaru
EA81.
>
> I f you're going to use Stitts covering, I would recommend Poly Tone paint as
it is easy to patch and repair.
> I used System 3 paint and its very hard to patch properly.
>
> Kirby Cramer
> Kitfox 4 NSI Subaru, N45KC
> Vans RV7A O-360, N445KC
> FAA Experimental Aircraft Repairman
> EAA Life Member
> 26 Rollingview Lane Fallbrook, CA 92028
> KirbyCramer(at)gmail.com
> 760-505-3173
> YouTube: Cramer's Classic Cycles
>
>
>
>
>
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genie(at)swissmail.org
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:02 am Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/16/21 |
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Hello Frank,
Thank you for your reply. I find it a good idea to contact Consolidated
Aircraft Coatings as I understand that they are experts on aircraft
coatings. Thank you very much for your advice.
Cheers
George Nielsen
Avid Flyer I-6640
The Hague, the Netherlands
On 17-Nov-21 14:27, Frank McDonald wrote:
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George
As your question implies, it is very important to determine what materials were used so that an appropriate repair can be made. Assume you checked the Aircraft logbook and there is no documentation re the covering process?
I recommend you call the Consolidated Aircraft Coatings folks. They hold the STC for both Poly-fiber (formerly Stits) and Ceconite and can walk you through figuring out if one of these products was used. Speak with the experts.
Though similar, Poly-fiber and Ceconite use different products for application. Each offers two fabric weights (Light weight usually used for small patches). Additionally, each has two options for the finish coating which dictates the repair process.
You can go to their web site and download the manual for each. Their manuals simply layout the process and products used. There is a chapter detailing how to make repairs for each.
There ARE OTHER products that may have been used! Being Experimental, the builder could have used ANYTHING.
Cheers
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Kitfox-List Digest Server <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
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> *
>
> ==================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> ==================================================
>
> Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 21-11-16&Archive=Kitfox
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 21-11-16&Archive=Kitfox
> ================================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ================================================
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Kitfox-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Tue 11/16/21: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
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> 1. 07:09 AM - Re: Canvas Cover (Michael Gibbs)
> 2. 07:34 AM - Re: Canvas Cover (Robert Toth)
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
> Time: 07:09:00 AM PST US
> From: Michael Gibbs <michaelgibbs(at)cox.net>
> Subject: Re: Canvas Cover
> Both my Model IV and Series 7 Kitfoxes use PolyFiber.
>
> Mike
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>> On Nov 16, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Kirby Cramer <kitfox(at)mcn.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> Mine was Ceconite (1992 Kitfox Model 4) which used the Stitts Poly Fiber system
> for adhesive and cover.
>> I think Stitts and Ceconite are similar. Flew it today, about 525 hours on Subaru
> EA81.
>> I f you're going to use Stitts covering, I would recommend Poly Tone paint as
> it is easy to patch and repair.
>> I used System 3 paint and its very hard to patch properly.
>>
>> Kirby Cramer
>> Kitfox 4 NSI Subaru, N45KC
>> Vans RV7A O-360, N445KC
>> FAA Experimental Aircraft Repairman
>> EAA Life Member
>> 26 Rollingview Lane Fallbrook, CA 92028
>> KirbyCramer(at)gmail.com
>> 760-505-3173
>> YouTube: Cramer's Classic Cycles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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