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n7188u
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 Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:13 pm Post subject: Dutch Europa accident presentation |
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Hi,
I really wanted to attend the Europa Club presentation on the Dutch Europa accident but work obligations tied me up and by the time I logged in the meeting ended two minutes later 
Were there any highlights during the presentation that are not in the Dutch accident report?
As I understand from the report, it just talks about an elevator trim in the full nose down position and gusty winds which may have caused the pilot to overcontrol and pitch up excessively during takeoff.
Any other info brought up during this presentation?
Best,
Chris
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Hitchflight
Joined: 22 Feb 2018
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Location: Derbyshire, England
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation |
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Fabulous respectful presentation. Very detailed. We were honoured by the presence of three of the report contributors. From the Dutch Safety Board; Atze Samplonius, UK Air Accident Investigation Branch; Alan Thorne. Plus of course Tim Weert who supported the investigation .
Tim Weert gave a two hour solo presentation to sixty six Club members. Including answering half a dozen detailed searching questions and observations from the audience.
For me and my own NLP I was able to assimilate the exhaustive information in the report more easily. Aiding my understanding of the likely chain of events. And most importantly the likely startle and surprise scenario experienced by the pilot. That led to me thinking what would or could be done in the moment, which I guess was the object of Tim’s presentation. So as an instructor, Tim succeeded with me. And judging by the applause most of the audience agreed.
So I’m sorry to have to say you missed a good one Chris. Where permissions, GDPR compliance and technology allow the Club like to video for the benefit those Club Members in other time zones. This time it was not possible. We aspire to have selected references to the incident and the presentation in the next Club magazine.
Regards
Bob
PS Hope you are still enjoying your newly born Europa!
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n7188u
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Dutch Europa accident presentation |
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Than you for the report Bob.
Yes, I am sorry too that I missed it.
But it sounds like a great idea if Tim could prepare an article for one of the Club's magazines where his views of this "startling" issue and ways to deal with it were discussed.
Best Regards,
Chris
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