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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:28 am    Post subject: 3-phase current monitor Reply with quote

See if the attached suggests a path toward your
design goals for monitoring 3-dynamo health:

See also https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/BreakoutBoards/0712.pdf






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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 3-phase current monitor Reply with quote

How funny -- we were both working on this at the same time.

Here's what I came up with. LED is off under normal ops and illuminates if a phase goes missing.

-Eric


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:00 pm    Post subject: 3-phase current monitor Reply with quote

Interesting device. $3.79 each at DigiKey. Amazing that with boards and connectors only $3.33 ea. on Amazon.


Tempted to insert in paths  to my fuse blocks and alternator field, but would introduce additional possible points of failure.



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On 10/9/2023 3:28 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

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See if the attached suggests a path toward your
design goals for monitoring 3-dynamo health:

See also https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/BreakoutBoards/0712.pdf






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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:57 pm    Post subject: 3-phase current monitor Reply with quote

At 08:00 PM 10/9/2023, you wrote:
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Interesting device. $3.79 each at DigiKey. Amazing that with boards and
connectors only $3.33 ea. on Amazon.

Yeah, an they come already MOUNTED in
a form factor the DIY fabricator can
work with. Those 8-pin, SOIC chips and
associated board layouts are really
'fun' to work with!

I've got some coming to fiddle with a bit
before I forward them on to you to evaluate
in your DIY DAS project.

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Tempted to insert in paths to my fuse blocks and alternator field, but would introduce additional possible points of failure.

Yeah . . . I think this is mostly an academic
exercise than a practical solution for
a 'problem' with very small probability of
occurrence -and- easily noted by other
instrumentation that should already be
in the airplane.

The most useful of in-flight monitors for
electrical system the low voltage warning
light. It that light is OUT, then probability
of comfortable completion of flight is
good.

The other bells-n-whistles are best
reserved for figuring why the light is
on AFTER landing whether or not they're
on the panel or in your toolbox.




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: 3-phase current monitor Reply with quote

Alternator problems such as loosing one phase or a diode failure result in a
higher AC component of the DC output. Based on that, perhaps something
like the circuit below connected to an EFIS input will warn if the AC
component is higher than a normal setpoint. If the signal is too weak, it
could be amplified. Is this idea feasible?


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