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Kellym

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 1:55 pm Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

My RV-10 has a 60 amp ANL fuse installed right below the shunt for the 

ammeterr, The fuse has blown, and I cannot find where I got the fuse 10 

years ago. Aircraft Spruce appear to be no help. I know they used to be 

common on experimental airplanes.



I have a 60 amp Plane power alternator.

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Tim Olson

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

Those things aren’t really aircraft parts. They’re more for car speakers and things like that. Not that they don’t work fine. I have them in my airplanes too. But you can buy them on Amazon, or eBay. I haven’t even ever looked at them in local stores before, but you might have luck if you have a high and car stereo store around you.

Tim

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		   On May 29, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 My RV-10 has a 60 amp ANL fuse installed right below the shunt for the ammeterr, The fuse has blown, and I cannot find where I got the fuse 10 years ago. Aircraft Spruce appear to be no help. I know they used to be common on experimental airplanes.

 

 I have a 60 amp Plane power alternator.

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 6:36 pm Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

That is what I eventually found. Looks like Home Depot can get within a 

day or two.

On 5/29/2024 7:02 PM, Tim Olson wrote:

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 Those things aren’t really aircraft parts. They’re more for car speakers and things like that. Not that they don’t work fine. I have them in my airplanes too. But you can buy them on Amazon, or eBay. I haven’t even ever looked at them in local stores before, but you might have luck if you have a high and car stereo store around you.

 Tim

> On May 29, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

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> My RV-10 has a 60 amp ANL fuse installed right below the shunt for the ammeterr, The fuse has blown, and I cannot find where I got the fuse 10 years ago. Aircraft Spruce appear to be no help. I know they used to be common on experimental airplanes.

>

> I have a 60 amp Plane power alternator.

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user9253

Joined: 28 Mar 2008
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Location: Riley TWP Michigan

Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: ANL fuse 60 amp.

Make sure the connections are tight.  A loose connection gets hot and could 

cause a fuse to blow.  Do you have a lithium battery?

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 7:14 pm Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

I'll make sure the connections are tight. I just has an Odyssey AGM battery



Kelly



On 5/29/2024 8:02 PM, user9253 wrote:

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 Make sure the connections are tight.  A loose connection gets hot and could

 cause a fuse to blow.  Do you have a lithium battery?



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 Joe Gores





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513612#513612

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Dave Saylor

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Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 7:32 pm Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

B&C and SteinAir have them.



On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 7:06 PM Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:



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 Those things aren’t really aircraft parts. They’re more for car speakers and things like that. Not that they don’t work fine. I have them in my airplanes too. But you can buy them on Amazon, or eBay. I haven’t even ever looked at them in local stores before, but you might have luck if you have a high and car stereo store around you.

 Tim

 

 

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 > My RV-10 has a 60 amp ANL fuse installed right below the shunt for the ammeterr, The fuse has blown, and I cannot find where I got the fuse 10 years ago. Aircraft Spruce appear to be no help. I know they used to be common on experimental airplanes.

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:56 am Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

Large trucks use those fuses try a large truck shopSent from my iPhone



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B&C and SteinAir have them.



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 Those things aren’t really aircraft parts. They’re more for car speakers and things like that. Not that they don’t work fine. I have them in my airplanes too. But you can buy them on Amazon, or eBay. I haven’t even ever looked at them in local stores before, but you might have luck if you have a high and car stereo store around you.

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 6:46 am Post subject: Re: ANL fuse 60 amp.

If you have Amazon Prime



Search "Blue Sea Systems 5123 ANL Fuse, 60A" within Amazon and select "All Prime"



$21.04

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user9253

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 9:29 am Post subject: Re: ANL fuse 60 amp.

Read this thread:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16778818

Especially the post by Charlie and his picture of fusible links.

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Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:19 am Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

At 10:31 PM 5/29/2024, you wrote:

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		  B&C and SteinAir have them.



   Those things aren't really aircraft parts. They're more for

  car speakers and things like that. Not that they don't work

  fine. I have them in my airplanes too. 	
 

      Not sure there is ANY catalog part, fuses and

      limiters included, that you might call an

      'aircraft' part. Catalog components become

      suited to task for aviation 'cause

      they appear on the drawings for a certified

      airplane, military vehicle, spacecraft, etc.



      The ANL/ANN series devices have been used aboard

      aircraft for about 100 years . . . lots of them

      scattered about B17's, KingAirs, LearJets and the 

      like. I introduced them to OBAM aviation a few

      decades ago after an abortive decision to try

      the JNN series fuses as bolt-on, in-line fuses

      for b-lead protection.



  http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Bussman/JNN_Specs.pdf 



      Bad idea, these critters didn't have the mechanical\

      robustness needed for such service. Plan-B was

      the ANL series devices and companion fuse-holders . . .

      certainly ROBUST but rather huge for little

      airplanes.



  http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Bussman/ANL_Specs.pdf

   http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Bussman/Limiter_FuseBlocks.pdf

 

      Not too many years after that, the major players

      in fusible protection (Bussman, Littlefuse, etc)

      Brought out some hardened and more attractive

      alternatives to the sheet-metal, limiters common

      to some European cars. Those are illustrated on

      the website as:



  http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Littlefuse/498.pdf 

  http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Littlefuse/298.pdf 



      A visit to about any big automotive parts store

      will provide sources for devices cited above

      or very similar.



      Holders for the modern devices are simple insulating

      blocks drilled for fuse/wiring and attachment to the

      airframe. I've made many of these things with a table

      or band-saw and drill press.  Phenolic, Delren, Lexan,

      even kitchen cutting boards offer sufficiently 

      robust, non-conductive material for a base.



      The car parts stores, amazon, ebay, et.als. will also

      have manufactured holders.



  http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Littlefuse/0498-MIDIFuseholder.pdf  



      But I usually build 'em when I need one.



      You could also consider a fusible link. If it were

      my airplane, a 6AWG b-lead protected by a 10AWG

      fusible link would be an attractive up-grade from

      bolt-on current limiters.



      The nagging question is, Why did your original

      limiter open up? Electrical fault or mechanical

      aging?  I think I'd jumper across your original

      ANL mounting space with a hung of 12AWG wire

      and fire up the engine to see how the alternator

      is performing. Without seeing the wiring diagram

      for your airplane, I'm guessing that the ANL was

      for alternator b-lead protection?



      Inquiring minds would like to know . . .



 

   Bob . . .



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Kellym

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Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 6:29 pm Post subject: ANL fuse 60 amp.

Bob,     

I am procuring tomorrow the necessary pieces to test with a       fusible link, as I have not found what caused the fuse to blow.      

It is 10 years old so age could have been a factor I didn't have       the pieces leftover from my build. I will test the system before       installing a new fuse.     

Kelly

          



          On 5/31/2024 3:19 AM, Robert L.       Nuckolls, III wrote:

     

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		                  The ANL/ANN series devices have been used         aboard

              aircraft for about 100 years . . . lots of         them

              scattered about B17's, KingAirs, LearJets and         the 

              like. I introduced them to OBAM aviation a         few

              decades ago after an abortive decision to         try

              the JNN series fuses as bolt-on, in-line         fuses

              for b-lead protection.

           Plan-B         was

              the ANL series devices and companion         fuse-holders . . .

              certainly ROBUST but rather huge for little

              airplanes.

         

          http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Bussman/ANL_Specs.pdf

                   http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Bussman/Limiter_FuseBlocks.pdf

           

         

              A visit to about any big automotive parts         store

              will provide sources for devices cited         above

              or very similar.

         

              Holders for the modern devices are simple         insulating

              blocks drilled for fuse/wiring and attachment to         the

              airframe. I've made many of these things with a         table

              or band-saw and drill press.  Phenolic,         Delren, Lexan,

              even kitchen cutting boards offer sufficiently         

              robust, non-conductive material for a         base.

         

              The car parts stores, amazon, ebay, et.als. will         also

              have manufactured holders.

         

          http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Fuses_and_Current_Limiters/Littlefuse/0498-MIDIFuseholder.pdf         

         

              But I usually build 'em when I need         one.

         

            You could also consider a fusible link.       If it were

            my airplane, a 6AWG b-lead protected by a       10AWG

            fusible link would be an attractive up-grade       from

            bolt-on current limiters.

       

            The nagging question is, Why did your       original

            limiter open up? Electrical fault or       mechanical

            aging?  I think I'd jumper across your       original

            ANL mounting space with a hung of 12AWG       wire

            and fire up the engine to see how the       alternator

            is performing. Without seeing the wiring       diagram

            for your airplane, I'm guessing that the ANL       was

            for alternator b-lead protection?

       

            Inquiring minds would like to know . .       .

       

                

             Bob . . .

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