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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Serial connections in Parallel? Reply with quote

I am going to get a Garmin 396or496 and want to connect it's serial output to my SL/30 so it can program the frequencies. I also want to connect it to my Navid, so the NMEA data can steer the auto pilot. But the Garmin only has 1 serial out line.

The output on the Garmin is labeled as "NMEA and VHF" which makes me assume that the data stream has the NMEA data interposed with the VHF programming data.

So the question for you smart guys is: If I connect the serial out signal from the Garmin in parallel to both of the devices, will it work or will there be some sort of signal degradation/interference?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:19 am    Post subject: Serial connections in Parallel? Reply with quote

I'm feeding both my SL30 and TruTrak with the single output from my 396 with no probs.

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[quote] From: David Leonard [mailto:wdleonard(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:58 AM
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Subject: Serial connections in Parallel?

I am going to get a Garmin 396or496 and want to connect it's serial output to my SL/30 so it can program the frequencies. I also want to connect it to my Navid, so the NMEA data can steer the auto pilot. But the Garmin only has 1 serial out line.

The output on the Garmin is labeled as "NMEA and VHF" which makes me assume that the data stream has the NMEA data interposed with the VHF programming data.

So the question for you smart guys is: If I connect the serial out signal from the Garmin in parallel to both of the devices, will it work or will there be some sort of signal degradation/interference?

Thanks

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David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
My websites at:
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http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject: Serial connections in Parallel? Reply with quote

What you are calling Parallel, we Electrical GEEKS call "Daisy Chain". (yes
it is parallel)

Yes it will work. I have my GX60 Serial Port 1 "Daisy Chained" to the SL30
and then to my Trio. Everything works. I tried using Serial Port 2 to run
the Trio but the GX60 only allows me to program it with the correct output
format to only one of the two ports. Therefore I would have been able to use
serial data on only one of the two.

The only problem maybe that it is not the correct format for the Navaid.

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,964 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA

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From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard(at)gmail.com>
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Subject: Serial connections in Parallel?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:57:31 -0800

I am going to get a Garmin 396or496 and want to connect it's serial output
to my SL/30 so it can program the frequencies. I also want to connect it to
my Navid, so the NMEA data can steer the auto pilot. But the Garmin only
has 1 serial out line.

The output on the Garmin is labeled as "NMEA and VHF" which makes me assume
that the data stream has the NMEA data interposed with the VHF programming
data.

So the question for you smart guys is: If I connect the serial out signal
from the Garmin in parallel to both of the devices, will it work or will
there be some sort of signal degradation/interference?

Thanks

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
My websites at:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Serial connections in Parallel? Reply with quote

You can usually output one NMEA signal to two or three devices in parallel without a problem. Sometimes it gives problems, particularly when you are going to a mix of RS-232 and optocoupler inputs. Some devices also ground the negative side of the input and some devices don't like that.

I work with NMEA every day and it is a strange bird. The standard calls for an RS-422 output, but an optocoupler input. Some units have RS-422 outputs, some have RS-485, some have TTL. Some inputs are RS-422, some are optocoupler, some are TTL, and some are RS-232. Some have the negative side connected to ground on the transmitter, and some on the receiver, and some have neither.

I design ship electronics systems for my day job and we use these buffers when we need to output to more than one device. http://www.engalt.com/prod01.htm. It is usually better to have a separate isolated output to each device. The buffer prevents problems with one device loading down the output and causing problems with other devices. It also has completely independent buffered outputs so if one shorts or has other problems it will not affect the other outputs. I manufacture the buffers so my highly biased opinion is that you should use one.


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