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Hopperdhh(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

I came across this battery deal:

  

 http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-680.asp

  

 This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now.

  

 I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.

  

 I may just try one.

  

 Dan Hopper

 RV-7A

  

  

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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Hopperdhh(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I came across this battery deal:

 

 http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-6

 80.asp

 

 This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is 

 $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.  I 

 found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now.

 

 I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that 

 this place has the best battery deals anywhere.


	




Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for 

a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences 

with the low-priced batteries:



http://thejournal.com/battery.htm



Sam Buchanan

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Sam,



That link does not work. I would be interested in your battery  

experiences.



David Maib

RV-10

40559

tailcone



On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Sam Buchanan wrote:






Hopperdhh(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I came across this battery deal:

 http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/ 

 cutsheets/58-PC-6

 80.asp

 This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The  

 price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.   

 The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web  

 site.  Can't find it right now.

 I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine  

 says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.


	




Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6  

for a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my  

experiences with the low-priced batteries:



http://thejournal.com/battery.htm



Sam Buchanan

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

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Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for a 

few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences with 

the low-priced batteries:



http://thejournal.com/battery.htm


	


The link did not work for me.



Ron Lee



do not archive please

kboatright1(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Try:



 http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm



KB

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wgill10(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Try:



http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm

do not archive

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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Kyle Boatright wrote:

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 Try:

 

 http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm

 

 KB


	




Thanks, Kyle; I failed to use the idiot checker before I sent the email. 

  



Sam Buchanan

wdleonard(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Dan,

  

 Note that those are not that similar to the odyssey batteries.  Those are typical sealed lead acid while the odyssey batteries are more like an improved gel cell.  That battery weighs less and has more total energy (22a/h vs 16 a/h) than the Odyssey of the same number/size (PC-680).  That battery also costs less.  

  

 So why get the odyssey?  Cranking Amps is the main issue.  Odysseys have huge cranking ability when fully charged.  Odysseys also are unspillable and can be mounted in any position and don't need a battery box.  They can tolerated repeated deep cycling much better, and they will probably last at least twice as long.  \ 

  

 It does seem like they are trying to appear as an odyssey clone by naming their battery the PC-680.

  

 But still, that seems like a good price for a sealed lead acid battery..  You will probably want 2 of them to be able to crank your engine reliably.

 

 

David Leonard



Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY

My websites at:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html

 http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html

http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com 

  

 Dan Harper wrote:

  I came across this battery deal:

  

 http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-680.asp 

  

 This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now. 

  

 I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.

  

 I may just try one.

  

 Dan Hopper

 RV-7A

  



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Hopperdhh(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

David and others,

  

 Try this link for more information.  I'm not trying to argue that these batteries are the same as the Oddysey, but they have 420 cranking amps, and can be mounted in any position (except upside down).  The link I gave earlier said that the "style" was AGM.  This one says deep discharge.  This link has a slightly different part number, but the same price.  I'm just saying that all cheap batteries are not equal, and there may be a good one out there.  Perhaps a call to Gruber would get their opinion about how they compare to the Odyssey.  Someone there must know a lot about batteries.  Look over their web site!

  

 http://www.gruberpower.com/purchase/batteries/product.asp?intProdID=24&strCatalog_NAME=Batteries&strSubCatalog_NAME=&strSubCatalogID=&intCatalogID=10001&CurCatalogID=

  

 BTW, I have had an Odyssey PC-680 AGM in my plane for over 2 years now.  It is truly an amazing battery.  I have cranked my 200 HP IO-360 for what seemed like a full minute and it just keeps on cranking.  Like most of you, I hate to experiment when the Odyssey has worked so well.  Thanks for the information.

  

 Dan Hopper

 RV-7A

  

  

 In a message dated 10/27/2006 12:59:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, wdleonard(at)gmail.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		   Dan,

  

 Note that those are not that similar to the odyssey batteries.  Those are typical sealed lead acid while the odyssey batteries are more like an improved gel cell.  That battery weighs less and has more total energy (22a/h vs 16 a/h) than the Odyssey of the same number/size (PC-680).  That battery also costs less.  

  

 So why get the odyssey?  Cranking Amps is the main issue.  Odysseys have huge cranking ability when fully charged.  Odysseys also are unspillable and can be mounted in any position and don't need a battery box.  They can tolerated repeated deep cycling much better, and they will probably last at least twice as long.  \ 

  

 It does seem like they are trying to appear as an odyssey clone by naming their battery the PC-680.

  

 But still, that seems like a good price for a sealed lead acid battery..  You will probably want 2 of them to be able to crank your engine reliably.

 

 

David Leonard



Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY

My websites at:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html

http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com/ 

  

 Dan Harper wrote:

  I came across this battery deal:

  

 http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-680.asp

  

 This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now. 

  

 I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.

  

 I may just try one.

  

 Dan Hopper

 RV-7A

  



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dale1rv6(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Hi all,  

One of the big advantages of the Odyssey is that as it gets older, it does not work good one day and die without notice the next week. It’s strength diminishes with a lot more notice. I am not ready to bet the cheap one will last 2 years because Walmart batteries in my car are barely making it 2 years. But if a little surprise inconvenience is ok; at worst it is a nice savings. IMHO.  

Do not archive  

   

Dale  

RV6a 705 hrs  

         

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard

 Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:57 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost  

  

     

Dan,  

    

   

    

Note that those are not that similar to the odyssey batteries.  Those are typical sealed lead acid while the odyssey batteries are more like an improved gel cell.  That battery weighs less and has more total energy (22a/h vs 16 a/h) than the Odyssey of the same number/size (PC-680).  That battery also costs less.    

    

   

    

So why get the odyssey?  Cranking Amps is the main issue.  Odysseys have huge cranking ability when fully charged.  Odysseys also are unspillable and can be mounted in any position and don't need a battery box.  They can tolerated repeated deep cycling much better, and they will probably last at least twice as long.  \   

    

   

    

It does seem like they are trying to appear as an odyssey clone by naming their battery the PC-680.  

    

   

    

But still, that seems like a good price for a sealed lead acid battery..  You will probably want 2 of them to be able to crank your engine reliably.

    

    



 David Leonard

 

 Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY

 My websites at:

 http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html

 http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html

 http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com   

    

   

    

Dan Harper wrote:  

      

I came across this battery deal:  

    

   

    

http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-680.asp   

    

   

    

This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now.   

    

   

    

I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.  

    

   

    

I may just try one.  

    

   

    

Dan Hopper  

    

RV-7A  

    

   

  

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rv8iator

Joined: 11 Apr 2006
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Location: Newberg, OR

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Sam...



The link to your web page is "page not found".  I would be interested in garnering your experience with the Panasonic batterys.



Chris Stone

80802



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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Christopher Stone wrote:

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 <rv8iator(at)earthlink.net>

 

 Sam...

 

 The link to your web page is "page not found".  I would be interested

 in garnering your experience with the Panasonic batterys.


	




Sorry for the confusion.



http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm



Sam Buchanan

sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

David Leonard wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Dan,

 

 Note that those are not that similar to the odyssey batteries.  Those are

 typical sealed lead acid while the odyssey batteries are more like an

 improved gel cell.  That battery weighs less and has more total energy

 (22a/h vs 16 a/h) than the Odyssey of the same number/size (PC-680).  That

 battery also costs less.


	


Just to add some data points, the el cheapo batteries are the same 

"type" as the Odyssey. Both use recombinant gas technology, and as I 

understand it, neither are similar to a gel cell.



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 So why get the odyssey?  Cranking Amps is the main issue.  Odysseys have

 huge cranking ability when fully charged.  Odysseys also are unspillable 

 and

 can be mounted in any position and don't need a battery box.  They can

 tolerated repeated deep cycling much better, and they will probably last at

 least twice as long.  \


	


The el cheapos can also be mounted in any position except upside down 

because their internal construction is basically the same as the Odyssey.



But the Odyssey does indeed have the edge when it comes to cranking amps 

and *should* last longer, but ultimate life will be due to many factors.



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 It does seem like they are trying to appear as an odyssey clone by naming

 their battery the PC-680.


	


Yep, that is sorta shifty.



 	  Quote: 	
		   But still, that seems like a good price for a sealed lead acid battery..

 You will probably want 2 of them to be able to crank your engine reliably.


	


Nope, one of the el cheapos will crank a 320 or 360 just fine as long as 

the engine isn't routinely started when it is deep-chilled, then the 

Odyssey will be the better choice. The rational for the low-priced 

battery is, uh, low cost which allows you to change batteries every two 

years in order to keep a fresh battery in the plane. Whether or not this 

is a good approach will depend on factors specific to each pilot 

(budget, aircraft mission, climate, etc).



Sam Buchanan



http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm

aerobubba(at)earthlink.ne
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:17 am Post subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost

Howdy Rich-



I got my no-name 17 AH AGM's from the local batteries plus outlet.  They

also stocked the PC 680's there. 

 

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		  Does anyone know if these low cost or real oddesy batteries are

available locally, such as an auto supply or Radio Shack, in case you

got stuck with a bad battery in the middle of a trip? One less spare to

worry about!

Rich Zeidman

RV7

 
	




glen matejcek

aerobubba(at)earthlink.net

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