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skylor4(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: Spark Plugs & Repairman

List,



One thing that seems to be lost in the noise regarding

checking of spark plug gaps:



You don't even need a repairman certifcate to legally

clean or replace spark plugs and set the spark plug

gap.



This is clearly defined in Part 43, Appendix A,

supbart C, paragraph 20.



Any owner licensed pilot/owner may perform preventive

maintenance of Part 91 aircraft, which includes

"Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of

spark plug gap clearance."



I bring this up, because much of the discussion

related to spark plug gapping seems to be centered

around "holders of repairman certificates".  A

repairman certificate has absolutely nothing to do

with legally gapping spark plugs, though I assume most

believe that the holder of a repairman's certificate

should know how!



Skylor



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dbris200(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: Spark Plugs & Repairman

The only privilege that the Repairman's Certificate gives you is signing off the condition inspection. How can you responsibly write in your logbook that:   "this engine has been inspected in accordance with the scope and detail of appendix D to part 43 and found to be in a condition for safe operation",  if you haven't checked the plugs?

 

 Dave Bristol

 EAA Technical Counselor

 

 do not archive

 

 

 Skylor Piper wrote: [quote]    	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4(at)yahoo.com> (skylor4(at)yahoo.com)



List,



One thing that seems to be lost in the noise regarding

checking of spark plug gaps:



You don't even need a repairman certifcate to legally

clean or replace spark plugs and set the spark plug

gap.



This is clearly defined in Part 43, Appendix A,

supbart C, paragraph 20.



Any owner licensed pilot/owner may perform preventive

maintenance of Part 91 aircraft, which includes

"Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of

spark plug gap clearance."



I bring this up, because much of the discussion

related to spark plug gapping seems to be centered

around "holders of repairman certificates".  A

repairman certificate has absolutely nothing to do

with legally gapping spark plugs, though I assume most

believe that the holder of a repairman's certificate

should know how!



Skylor



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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: Spark Plugs & Repairman

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I suspect that his point 

goes in the other direction (I'd go further): you don't need *any* 

authorization of any sort to change plugs (or anything else on a 

homebuilt), so the discussion of the Repairman's Cert. is all moot.



I'm not talking about what makes sense; just what's *required*.



Never, ever, encourage more regulation & further restrictions on your 

freedom.



Charlie

no titles, but legal repairs/changes to 4 different homebuilts, so far 

(none that I have held Repair. Certs on)



Dave Bristol wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   The only privilege that the Repairman's Certificate gives you is 

 signing off the condition inspection. How can you responsibly write in 

 your logbook that:   "this engine has been inspected in accordance 

 with the scope and detail of appendix D to part 43 and found to be in 

 a condition for safe operation",  if you haven't checked the plugs?



 Dave Bristol

 EAA Technical Counselor



 do not archive

 Skylor Piper wrote:



>

>

>List,

>

>One thing that seems to be lost in the noise regarding

>checking of spark plug gaps:

>

>You don't even need a repairman certifcate to legally

>clean or replace spark plugs and set the spark plug

>gap.

>

>This is clearly defined in Part 43, Appendix A,

>supbart C, paragraph 20.

>

>Any owner licensed pilot/owner may perform preventive

>maintenance of Part 91 aircraft, which includes

>"Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of

>spark plug gap clearance."

>

>I bring this up, because much of the discussion

>related to spark plug gapping seems to be centered

>around "holders of repairman certificates".  A

>repairman certificate has absolutely nothing to do

>with legally gapping spark plugs, though I assume most

>believe that the holder of a repairman's certificate

>should know how!

>

>Skylor

>

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dbris200(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: Spark Plugs & Repairman

Charlie, I think that we're actually on the same side here, but maybe I wasn't clear in what I was trying to say. 

 My point was that you DO need an authorization to sign off the condition inspection and you DO need to know that the plugs are gapped correctly to do so. My quote  "this engine has been inspected in accordance with the...."  is from my oplims and is therefore "required". The Repairman's Certificate is not about "repairing" it's about signing.

 

 I would "Never, ever, encourage more regulation & further restrictions on your freedom. "

 

 Dave

 

 

 Charlie England wrote: [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> (ceengland(at)bellsouth.net)   

   

 I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I suspect that his point goes in the other direction (I'd go further): you don't need *any* authorization of any sort to change plugs (or anything else on a homebuilt), so the discussion of the Repairman's Cert. is all moot.   

   

 I'm not talking about what makes sense; just what's *required*.   

   

 Never, ever, encourage more regulation & further restrictions on your freedom.   

   

 Charlie   

 no titles, but legal repairs/changes to 4 different homebuilts, so far (none that I have held Repair. Certs on)   

   

   

   

 Dave Bristol wrote:   

   

    	  Quote: 	
		  The only privilege that the Repairman's Certificate gives you is signing off the condition inspection. How can you responsibly write in your logbook that:   "this engine has been inspected in accordance with the scope and detail of appendix D to part 43 and found to be in a condition for safe operation",  if you haven't checked the plugs?     

     

 Dave Bristol     

 EAA Technical Counselor     

     

 do not archive     

     

     

 Skylor Piper wrote:     

     

      	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4(at)yahoo.com> (skylor4(at)yahoo.com)       

       

 List,       

       

 One thing that seems to be lost in the noise regarding       

 checking of spark plug gaps:       

       

 You don't even need a repairman certifcate to legally       

 clean or replace spark plugs and set the spark plug       

 gap.       

       

 This is clearly defined in Part 43, Appendix A,       

 supbart C, paragraph 20.       

       

 Any owner licensed pilot/owner may perform preventive       

 maintenance of Part 91 aircraft, which includes       

 "Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of       

 spark plug gap clearance."       

       

 I bring this up, because much of the discussion       

 related to spark plug gapping seems to be centered       

 around "holders of repairman certificates".  A       

 repairman certificate has absolutely nothing to do       

 with legally gapping spark plugs, though I assume most       

 believe that the holder of a repairman's certificate       

 should know how!       

       

 Skylor       

       

     	
   	
   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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