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dav1111(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: Before closing up the top of the TailconeBefore closing up t

I installed my most forward cross member as close  to the F-1006 as possible, and just behind the bolts joining the F-1046 and  F-1032 Longerons together, almost directly above the battery.  I have had  no problems with interference, except where I failed to use brass bolts and  washers to install the magnameter onto the shelf.

  

 Since the duel AHRS and magnameters are all on a  shelf next to each other in the center of the fuselage the left and right seat  belt cables just cross above the cross members and are no problem.  If you  were to install the AHRS or magnameter next to the fuselage side wall they could  cause interference.

  

 Best regards,

  

 Russ Daves

 N710RV flying

  

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jjessen

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: Before closing up the top of the TailconeBefore closing up t

So, is there a reason to locate where Russ has done, or  to locate behind the F-1007, further away from the battery?  I'm trying to  keep the area above the battery free for a future hat shelf, but don't want to  place things too far aft if there is a reason one should keep the AHRS and  magnetometer closer to, say, the mid of the plane.  If either is back  further into the tailcone, could that mess up their readings?   

  

 John Jessen

   40328 (closing the tailcone as soon as I locate  the shelf for the AHRS/magnetometer)



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		           From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell    Daves

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Subject: Re: Before closing up    the top of the TailconeBefore closing up the top of the    Tailcone

   

   I installed my most forward cross member as close    to the F-1006 as possible, and just behind the bolts joining the F-1046 and    F-1032 Longerons together, almost directly above the battery.  I have had    no problems with interference, except where I failed to use brass bolts and    washers to install the magnameter onto the shelf.

    

   Since the duel AHRS and magnameters are all on a    shelf next to each other in the center of the fuselage the left and right seat    belt cables just cross above the cross members and are no problem.  If    you were to install the AHRS or magnameter next to the fuselage side wall they    could cause interference.

    

   Best regards,

    

   Russ Daves

   N710RV flying

    

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: Before closing up the top of the TailconeBefore closing up t

Be careful. I would expect the exterior skins in that area to be

considered part of the stressed monocoque. Might be better to have

access panel as part of the rear baggage compartment panel, as many

Cessnas do.



On 11/7/06, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:

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 Something I was reminded recently of was the issue of serviceability.

 There is a lot of space behind the baggage bulkhead, and  potentially

 room for things like Oxygen, air Conditioning, AHRS, Strobe power

 supply, ELT, Elevator servo, Batteries, contactors, etc. etc. With the

 tailcone disconnected, and with the top fuse skin at the rear of the

 cabin off, it's easy to get to these areas, but how will that be

 accomplished when everything is riveted/bolted up, just a thought to

 throw into the mix, its caused me to think seriously about  adding a

 hinged access door/panel that would be located behind the baggage

 bulkhead top skin and  forward of the tailcone top skin.



 Deems Davis # 406

 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )

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 John Jessen wrote:



 > So, is there a reason to locate where Russ has done, or to locate

 > behind the F-1007, further away from the battery?  I'm trying to keep

 > the area above the battery free for a future hat shelf, but don't want

 > to place things too far aft if there is a reason one should keep the

 > AHRS and magnetometer closer to, say, the mid of the plane.  If either

 > is back further into the tailcone, could that mess up their readings?

 >

 > John Jessen

 >   40328 (closing the tailcone as soon as I locate the shelf for the

 > AHRS/magnetometer)

 >

 >     ------------------------------------------------------------------------

 >     *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

 >     [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of

 >     *Russell Daves

 >     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:55 AM

 >     *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 >     *Subject:* Re: Before closing up the top of the

 >     TailconeBefore closing up the top of the Tailcone

 >

 >     I installed my most forward cross member as close to the F-1006 as

 >     possible, and just behind the bolts joining the F-1046 and F-1032

 >     Longerons together, almost directly above the battery.  I have had

 >     no problems with interference, except where I failed to use brass

 >     bolts and washers to install the magnameter onto the shelf.

 >

 >     Since the duel AHRS and magnameters are all on a shelf next to

 >     each other in the center of the fuselage the left and right seat

 >     belt cables just cross above the cross members and are no

 >     problem.  If you were to install the AHRS or magnameter next to

 >     the fuselage side wall they could cause interference.

 >

 >     Best regards,

 >

 >     Russ Daves

 >     N710RV flying

 >

 >

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: Before closing up the top of the TailconeBefore closing up t

I second that.  I would be very careful putting any access panels in the outer skins.

  

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: Before closing up the top of the TailconeBefore closing up t

Perhaps, but do you want to be the designer? I don't know how critical

those areas are.

I know you can safely go through the back panel of the baggage

compartment..maybe not as convenient, but a lot less risky to the

structure when you need to do a high G pull out.



On 11/7/06, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:

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 Good point Kelly !, thanks for keeping this Dreamer grounded in a safer

 reality. Could it be accomplished by installing sufficient doublers

 around the opening? And rather than making it hinged, using closely

 spaced nutplates to attach the access?



 Deems Davis # 406

 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )

 http://deemsrv10.com/



 Kelly McMullen wrote:



 > 

 >

 > Be careful. I would expect the exterior skins in that area to be

 > considered part of the stressed monocoque. Might be better to have

 > access panel as part of the rear baggage compartment panel, as many

 > Cessnas do.

 >

 > On 11/7/06, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:

 >

 >> 

 >>

 >> Something I was reminded recently of was the issue of serviceability.

 >> There is a lot of space behind the baggage bulkhead, and  potentially

 >> room for things like Oxygen, air Conditioning, AHRS, Strobe power

 >> supply, ELT, Elevator servo, Batteries, contactors, etc. etc. With the

 >> tailcone disconnected, and with the top fuse skin at the rear of the

 >> cabin off, it's easy to get to these areas, but how will that be

 >> accomplished when everything is riveted/bolted up, just a thought to

 >> throw into the mix, its caused me to think seriously about  adding a

 >> hinged access door/panel that would be located behind the baggage

 >> bulkhead top skin and  forward of the tailcone top skin.

 >>

 >> Deems Davis # 406

 >> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )

 >> http://deemsrv10.com/

 >>

 >>

 >>

 >> John Jessen wrote:

 >>

 >> > So, is there a reason to locate where Russ has done, or to locate

 >> > behind the F-1007, further away from the battery?  I'm trying to keep

 >> > the area above the battery free for a future hat shelf, but don't want

 >> > to place things too far aft if there is a reason one should keep the

 >> > AHRS and magnetometer closer to, say, the mid of the plane.  If either

 >> > is back further into the tailcone, could that mess up their readings?

 >> >

 >> > John Jessen

 >> >   40328 (closing the tailcone as soon as I locate the shelf for the

 >> > AHRS/magnetometer)

 >> >

 >> >

 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

 >> >     *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

 >> >     [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of

 >> >     *Russell Daves

 >> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:55 AM

 >> >     *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 >> >     *Subject:* Re: Before closing up the top of the

 >> >     TailconeBefore closing up the top of the Tailcone

 >> >

 >> >     I installed my most forward cross member as close to the F-1006 as

 >> >     possible, and just behind the bolts joining the F-1046 and F-1032

 >> >     Longerons together, almost directly above the battery.  I have had

 >> >     no problems with interference, except where I failed to use brass

 >> >     bolts and washers to install the magnameter onto the shelf.

 >> >

 >> >     Since the duel AHRS and magnameters are all on a shelf next to

 >> >     each other in the center of the fuselage the left and right seat

 >> >     belt cables just cross above the cross members and are no

 >> >     problem.  If you were to install the AHRS or magnameter next to

 >> >     the fuselage side wall they could cause interference.

 >> >

 >> >     Best regards,

 >> >

 >> >     Russ Daves

 >> >     N710RV flying

 >> >

 >> >

 >> >*

 >> >

 >> >href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com

 >> >href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com

 >> >href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com

 >> >href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com

 >> >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

 >>

 >> >

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 >> > 11/6/2006

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