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george(at)falco.co.nz
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Starter Reply with quote

Hi All..
I thought you may be interested in this one.
I have a Skytec NL inline starter on my Falco.. It has been a great unit but the other day a potentially dangerous situation occurred.
I was training a friend to fly my machine (Yeah yeah.. another story) when I got out all sounded fine and he duly taxied out for 2 circuits. On his return.. immediately he exited the runway there was the familiar noise of the ring gear taking a hiding. What transpired was as the picture suggests... the two screw that hold the end cap to the starter had vanished. The end cap and gear where then being spring forced on to the ring gear... not a good situation.. had  the gear managed to engage the results would have been very nasty.
If you have one of these starters I would recommend changing the front screws for a lockable variety.
 
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George Richards
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Starter Reply with quote

Thanks for the information George.  I was thinking of using a B&C starter and alternator when I get to that point.  Did you consider those and did you decide against them for some reason I should know about.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Starter Reply with quote

HI Al..
The only thing stopping me for the B&C was all the info I read on the Sequoia site with other guys having trouble making them fit. I don't know it they have an inline version or not now but they didn't when I was buying.
The Skytec is a fantastic little unit and spins the prop really well.. this is and will be an issue for them though. I got the very first one from Rich Chiappe at Skytec so maybe this has changed on later units. The companies support is second to none however so I'm sure that this will be remedied if it is likely to be an issue.
I will certainly be changing the screws to something I can lock wire in future however.
 
Hope you project is coming along nicely.
Cheers
GR
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Starter Reply with quote

George & Listers,
A third option for starters is a converted Toyota
Pick Up truck starter. These are marketed by several
folks for the experimental market. I purchased mine
from a rebuilder who sells on EBay. See

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-149tfw-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26439QQitemZ4580254772QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-122tfw_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26442QQitemZ4522782279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Lycomings manufactured before 1970 use the older 122
tooth ring gear starters. Although many of the older
engines have been updated. It's best to count the
number of teeth on your ring gear.
Charlie Kuss
--- George Richards <george(at)falco.co.nz> wrote:

[quote] HI Al..
The only thing stopping me for the B&C was all the
info I read on the
Sequoia site with other guys having trouble making
them fit. I don't know it
they have an inline version or not now but they
didn't when I was buying.
The Skytec is a fantastic little unit and spins the
prop really well.. this
is and will be an issue for them though. I got the
very first one from Rich
Chiappe at Skytec so maybe this has changed on later
units. The companies
support is second to none however so I'm sure that
this will be remedied if
it is likely to be an issue.
I will certainly be changing the screws to something
I can lock wire in
future however.

Hope you project is coming along nicely.
Cheers
GR

PS. for anyone who wondered what happened to my
website.. I'm changing
servers at present.. hopefully back again in a
couple of days.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Starter Reply with quote

Hi Charlie..
Unfortunately these side motor style starters don't fit in a Falco.. Things
are very tight in there.
Several builders have tried and reported problems... see the skunkworks,
there is quite a bit written on starters.
The only comfortable fit is the in-line style of starter.
I think these starters are how B & C and others started out life. At least
where they got their first brain wave from.

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