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otrova

Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 3
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

I don't see a lot of activity on this forum and what I do see does not show a very positive support/design/quality from the Allegro manufacturer and the USA Distributor.



I'm I wrong? Can anyone comment on this?



1-Allegro Plane in general

2-QB Kit, instructions, support, quality, completeness?

3-USA Distributor/Manufacturer support, commitment?



Thanks!

Otrova

Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

Otrova,



1-	The Allegro is a great performing airplane that is comfortable to 

fly for long periods and is very economical to operate, especially the 

912UL (80 hp) version. I have very few complaints about the airplane 

itself and those are rather minor.



2-	I can't comment on the QB kit as we bought our Allegro already 

flying as a demonstration aircraft with 270 hours on it.



3-	The USA importers are learning as they go and are not up to the 

standards I would like, but they are improving. They do not participate 

in this List which is a mystery to me.



I hope this helps.



Thom in Buffalo

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arno7452(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

Thom,

Have you visited the site in Sanford, NC?  You might find some of the 

reasons they do not participate.  I took two LSA lessons out of there.

Regards,

Ken





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otrova

Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 3
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

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Joined: 23 May 2006

Posts: 49



 Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Allegro-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/31/06   



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Otrova: 

I do not know how many Kits have been built in the U.S., but I suspect very 

few relative to the number of ready-to-fly planes. The plane itself is 

excellent. My personal experience, having just finished the Quik-Build Kit 

version after receiving it in March 2004, concerning the instructions, 

support, quality and completeness of the kit has been expressed in numerous 

early emails on this forum. I trust you have read them so I will not repeat 

them here. My biggest disappointment was the little to no support I received 

from the USA Distributor. Their attitude seemed to be "you bought it, you 

build it". If you would like to discuss this further, you can contact me 

directly at hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net 



Hugh McKay 

Allegro 2000 

N661WW 



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ray

Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 6
Location: australia

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

Hi

  I purchased a QB kit. A really nice plane but the assembly instruction manual needs a lot of work. I was fortune enough to have had an assembled plane only a half hours drive away. If i was to do it again i would purchase an Allegro already to fly, the cheapest basic model, then purchase the extras later. To give you an idea on the savings you can make ,i purchased the headlight in the kit at a cost of $150 plus tax. The exact same light can be purchased at the harwre store for $7.50

                                      Ray

otrova

Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 3
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

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Hi 

I purchased a QB kit. A really nice plane but the assembly instruction manual needs a lot of work. I was fortune enough to have had an assembled plane only a half hours drive away. If i was to do it again i would purchase an Allegro already to fly, the cheapest basic model, then purchase the extras later. To give you an idea on the savings you can make ,i purchased the headlight in the kit at a cost of $150 plus tax. The exact same light can be purchased at the harwre store for $7.50 

Ray 	




Thanks for the feedback Ray!

One concern... if I purchase a completed model, I believe I can not make the modifications as you suggest, this would not be an Experimental Plane?



How could we have them improve the building manuals and support infrastructure around it? Maybe the best option is something like the RV Forums, lot's of good feedback and community help, but I guess you need critical mass to get it going... and/or vendor support until it going.



Otrova

John Kepes

Joined: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 8

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

This is the worst kit manual I have ever seen The usa support SUCKS. once they have your cash You will never see them again. my kit was missing lots of parts that D bar d avation gave me only greif  and no parts  If a part inventory  and the parts were numbered This would  have been  simple to adress at time or recipt of the kit but none are included. af far as the instructions go  It may be helpfull to do lots of drugs  when building as this is the state  in that they were writen in. 

Good luck John Kepes

armando(at)tio.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

hgmckay

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 397

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

Armando:



I do not know where you are physically located, but if it is in the USA, and

you buy a kit from a Dealer who obtains the kit  through the US Distributor

(Fantasy Air USA) you are going to be very disappointed and frustrated with

what you get. I bought an Allegro 2000 QB Kit from them in December 2004 and

am just now getting the plane completed (27 months later). The problem is

not the plane, it is the Manufacturer (Fantasy Air, Pisek, Czech Republic),

and the US Distributor (Fantasy AIR USA, Sanford, NC). You will get little

to no support from these companies while you are trying to assemble your

plane. There is no parts list, so you don't know if you have all the parts

or not, and let me assure you, you will not get all the parts when the kit

arrives. To get the missing parts, after you finally realize that one or

more are missing will take months. Then there is the issue of the assembly

manual. It is pathetic! First it has been translated from the Czech language

into English. The translation is poor at best and will require you to do a

lot of deductive reasoning to figure out what you are supposed to do. I

could go on and on with the difficulties and problems I have had with the

USA Distributor. Basically they don't care one way or the other after they

get your money. So don't believe what they tell you. They are a bunch of car

salesmen (airplane in this case)! A word to the wise!



Hugh McKay III

Allegro 2000

N661WW

Rotax 912 UL

Maiden, NC



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hgmckay

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 397

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: Any fedback on Allegro/Fantasy before I buy a QB Kit?

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