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kinnepix(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: list

Kolb List

It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my 

recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing 

one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric 

off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a 

message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should 

have at least said =93please=94.

But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane, 

offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had 

received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest 

(misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone =93verbally 

assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where 

did that  come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone 

else.

This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor the 

inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this 

is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person any 

more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of 

you for my own small part in it.

Russ Kinne

JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: list

 	  kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote: 	
		  Kolb List

It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my 

recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing 

one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric 

off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a 

message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should 

have at least said =93please=94.

But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane, 

offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had 

received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest 

(misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone =93verbally 

assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where 

did that  come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone 

else.

This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor the 

inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this 

is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person any 

more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of 

you for my own small part in it.

Russ Kinne 	




Russ,



The flame war got way out of control, and as far as I am concerned it was over yesterday.  It was bad and I hope to never repeat it in this forum.



I for one dont hold a grudge, and when something is over, its history.  I am more happy to accept a sincere apology.  We all get emotional and say things we shouldnt sometimes, I am guilty of that, we all have at one time or another, its no big deal...



When I read your post above, it is a seems to be more of an attack than a sincere apology.  I read it and most of the content is talking aobut my spelling, rehashing old issues, and telling everyone how you ignore my posts.  Its dissapointing to see all this being brought up again disguised as an apology.



Michael A. Bigelow

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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!

Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: list

I know that I should just shut up and let this thing die an ugly death but 

.................... Damn Mike, PLEASE, just take what you got and be happy 

with it and let it be as you said .... HISTORY.



You got your apology, don't judge the quality of it.



Chris Mallory



do not archive



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Michael Sharp

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 118
Location: Oak Grove, MO (Kansas City)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: list

PLEASE!



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--It is the same the angels breathe.
Mark Twain,
Roughing it' 1886

Mike

kinnepix(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: list

No comment



On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:16 PM, JetPilot wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 kinnepix(at)earthlink.net wrote:

> Kolb List

> It has been suggested to me that I might apologize for one of my

> recent posts, and I probably should. I admit I got tired of hearing

> one man beat up on another a number of times, for taking the fabric

> off his own aircraft; and I finally got exasperated and sent him a

> message saying =93just SHUT UP=94. This was wrong of me, and I should

> have at least said =93please=94.

> But this occasioned a flood of comments claiming I was profane,

> offensive, nasty, uncivil, hipocritical (misspelled), and he had

> received blatant personal attacks, the worst and nastyest

> (misspelled) personal attacks he=92d ever had, and someone  

> =93verbally

> assaulted me in a very nasty way=94. He also called me a liar. (Where

> did that  come from??) I really think he=92s mixed me up with someone

> else.

> This is not what this list is for, and I don=92t have the time nor  

> the

> inclination to indulge in this nonsense. Far as I=92m concerned, this

> is the end of it. I simply don=92t open any posts from this person  

> any

> more. But I am sorry it all happened and I apologize for to all of

> you for my own small part in it.

> Russ Kinne

 Russ,



 The flame war got way out of control, and as far as I am concerned  

 it was over yesterday.  It was bad and I hope to never repeat it in  

 this forum.



 I for one dont hold a grudge, and when something is over, its  

 history.  I am more happy to accept a sincere apology.  We all get  

 emotional and say things we shouldnt sometimes, I am guilty of  

 that, we all have at one time or another, its no big deal...



 When I read your post above, it is a seems to be more of an attack  

 than a sincere apology.  I read it and most of the content is  

 talking aobut my spelling, rehashing old issues, and telling  

 everyone how you filtered my posts.  Its dissapointing to me to see  

 all this being brought up again, and disguised as an apology.



 Michael A. Bigelow



 --------

 NO FEAR -  If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could  

 have !!!





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122

beauford(at)tampabay.rr.c
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: list

Brother Bigelow...

Please, just have the graciousness to vanish...  we will all be in your

debt...

sigh....

Beauford

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JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: list

Some people here have become so biased by a small vocal group here that they have lost all sense of wright and wrong.  Condoning the continuing personal attacks by Randy or anyone will not solve anything.  If this is to stop, it must be stopped by ALL involved.



Randys "apology" was used as a way to further to insult me, and defend his actions, it was not a sincere apology or attempt to bring this mess to a close.  I do not appreciate this, and pointed it out in a civilized and friendly manner.  For a couple of people to tell me to be quiet and take further insults is just wrong on your parts.  Put your emotions aside for a minute, and read exactly what was posted.  Do you all have any right or justified reason to attack me, or tell me to leave the list for asking not to be attacked and further insulted ?   It seems to have become acccepted conduct to attack a member on this list as long as it is a popular group effort.  This sets a very bad and dangerous precident.   You all told me in no uncertian terms that attacking, belittling, and offending others was not tolerated on this list.  Is it to much for me to ask for the same respect and treatment ????

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Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

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neilsenrmf(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: list

WOLF!



Do not archive



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wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: list

woof ..........................................

DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: list

In a message dated 1/26/2006 8:32:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,  

orcabonita(at)hotmail.com writes:

Some  people here have become so biased by a small vocal group here that they 

have  lost all sense of wright and wrong

      It is wrong to keep this  up!!!!!!!   You're Not makin any friends but 

you ARE becoming  famous!

John Jung

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 108
Location: Surprise, AZ, USA

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: Re: list

 	  JetPilot wrote: 	
		  If this is to stop, it must be stopped by ALL involved. 	




JetPilot,



Since, IMO, you started this whole thing, you should be the one to stop first. If you cannot stop, I for one, will ask Matt to remove you from the list. Better yet, remove yourself.

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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ

JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: list

 	  John Jung wrote: 	
		  

Since, IMO, you started this whole thing, you should be the one to stop first. If you cannot stop, I for one, will ask Matt to remove you from the list. Better yet, remove yourself. 	




I did stop, it was over and done with...   Until Russ rahashed the whole thing and publically trashed me in his post that he tried to disguise as an "apology".  Your comment is way out of line and I do not appreciate it either.  The only ones that have broken the rules and spirit of this forum since my apology are Russ Kinne and those that continue to respond to this thread in a mean way including yourself.  I will never cave in to a small group of people that want to apply the rules and highest standard to conduct to myself, but are so willing to ingore the rules themselves.



Matt, or anyone else reading this thread can clearly see who needs a warning to who needs to be removed from the list.  I logged into the list after not posting for a few days just to see another nasty comment by yourself.   I personally hope Matt does step in, because im tired of reading nasty comments and posts every day by a small and vocal group that has decided to gang up on me.  You seem to think yourselves above the very rules you are preaching.  The conduct of all involved in this is shameful.



Michael A. Bigelow

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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!

Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

Matt Dralle
Site Admin

Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 25935
Location: Livermore CA USA

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: list

At 12:10 PM 1/29/2006  Sunday, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

John Jung wrote:

> 

> Since, IMO, you started this whole thing, you should be the one to stop first. If you cannot stop, I for one, will ask Matt to remove you from the list. Better yet, remove yourself.

I did stop, it was over and done with...   Until Russ rahashed the whole thing and publically trashed me in his post that he tried to disguise as an "apology".  Your comment is way out of line and I do not appreciate it either.  The only ones that have broken the rules and spirit of this forum since my apology are Russ Kinne and those that continue to respond to this thread in a mean way including yourself.  I will never cave in to a small group of people that want to apply the rules and highest standard to conduct to myself, but are so willing to ingore the rules themselves.

Matt, or anyone else reading this thread can clearly see who needs a warning to who needs to be removed from the list.  I logged into the list after not posting for a few days just to see another nasty comment by yourself.   I personally hope Matt does step in, because im tired of reading nasty comments and posts every day by a small and vocal group that has decided to gang up on me.  You seem to think yourselves above the very rules you are preaching.  The conduct of all involved in this is shameful.

Michael A. Bigelow

Okay, not to waste even more bandwidth on this topic, but this is ridiculous.  If I see any more posts regarding this topic, the poster will be banned from posting to the List for 30 days.  And why hasn't this topic at least carried the "do not archive" monaker?  I have been receiving a large number of direct emails from other List members asking to ban the main contributors to this thread.  I really hate doing that.  Just drop this topic.  You've been warned.

Matt Dralle

Matronics Email List Administrator

Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551

925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email

http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft

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Mike Schnabel

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Manchester, TN

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: list

Thank you Matt for stepping in.

  This issue has gone from argumentive, to ridicoulous...

  Thank goodness its FINALLY over...

  Mike S

  Manchester TN

Firestar 2 503

Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

At 12:10 PM 1/29/2006 Sunday, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

John Jung wrote:

> 

> Since, IMO, you started this whole thing, you should be the one to stop first. If you cannot stop, I for one, will ask Matt to remove you from the list. Better yet, remove yourself.

I did stop, it was over and done with... Until Russ rahashed the whole thing and publically trashed me in his post that he tried to disguise as an "apology". Your comment is way out of line and I do not appreciate it either. The only ones that have broken the rules and spirit of this forum since my apology are Russ Kinne and those that continue to respond to this thread in a mean way including yourself. I will never cave in to a small group of people that want to apply the rules and highest standard to conduct to myself, but are so willing to ingore the rules themselves.

Matt, or anyone else reading this thread can clearly see who needs a warning to who needs to be removed from the list. I logged into the list after not posting for a few days just to see another nasty comment by yourself. I personally hope Matt does step in, because im tired of reading nasty comments and posts every day by a small and vocal group that has decided to gang up on me. You seem to think yourselves above the very rules you are preaching. The conduct of all involved in this is shameful.

Michael A. Bigelow

Okay, not to waste even more bandwidth on this topic, but this is ridiculous. If I see any more posts regarding this topic, the poster will be banned from posting to the List for 30 days. And why hasn't this topic at least carried the "do not archive" monaker? I have been receiving a large number of direct emails from other List members asking to ban the main contributors to this thread. I really hate doing that. Just drop this topic. You've been warned.

Matt Dralle

Matronics Email List Administrator

Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551

925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email

http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft

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