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Aerobatics(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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I was working on my wheel pants for my KF2 and a Piper PA 28 flew very low over my house and impacted the ground about 1 mile away. It happened about 5 45 pm tonite... It was calm cold clear night.
TV is here as well as many cops etc. Engine was running....
That's all I know as I look at the flashing lights from my living room window.... I live way out in the country, closest house from me is 1/2 mile...
Dave
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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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Where are you Dave? How close to an airport and what
was the weather? Always something we can learn from
accidents not to do.
Kurt S. (Old Marine Corps accident investigator)
--- Aerobatics(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | I was working on my wheel pants for my KF2 and a
Piper PA 28 flew very low
over my house and impacted the ground about 1 mile
away. It happened about 5
45 pm tonite... It was calm cold clear night.
TV is here as well as many cops etc. Engine was
running....
That's all I know as I look at the flashing lights
from my living room
window.... I live way out in the country, closest
house from me is 1/2 mile...
Dave
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Aerobatics(at)AOL.COM
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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In a message dated 11/20/2006 11:44:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, smokey_bear_40220(at)yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | Where are you Dave? How close to an airport and what
was the weather? Always something we can learn from
accidents not to do. |
I live in the country, 100 miles due south of Midway airport Chicago. I live about 19 miles East of Paxton airport 1C1 DNV is about 25 South of impact. Kentland Indiana is about 25 Miles NE. Kankakee is about 35 Miles North of impact. There are a few small strips closer. but none closer than 10 miles.
Sunset was about 4:40 It was about one hour after sunset. The temp was about 45 F winds light, very clear. A perfect VFR night. I fly a lot at night logging about 80 hours of night alone last year.
I personally was at Paxton airport making wheel pants for my KF2, wife was at home about to leave to meet me for dinner when she saw a plane fly over head at about 250 feet. She texted me asking if it was me and that I was too low as she was driving to airport.
I said no, I am still in hanger..... wonder who was buzzing at night???
Then my phone rang off the hook because I am in a partnership in a warrior based at 1C1 and one crashed near my house. They all thought it was me. I am glad it wasn't me, but sadly a sole was lost.
I am still looking out my window to see many flashing lights. FAA are to arrive tomorrow morning.
Sandy said when the plane flew over, lights were on, engine seemed fine and wings seemed level.
If what she says is correct, it was a gradual straight impact. Who knows. Its still so early.
I am sorry this is not KF stuff, but certainly flying related,
Best
Dave KF 2
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spaghettiohead(at)hotmail
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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Jeeez...CFIT?? Medical problem perhaps? Too many questions - keep us
updated...
Andrew
KF3
CFI/CFII/MEI
ERJ-145 Hopeful
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Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: off topic PA 28 crash
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:35:44 EST
In a message dated 11/20/2006 11:44:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
smokey_bear_40220(at)yahoo.com writes:
Where are you Dave? How close to an airport and what
was the weather? Always something we can learn from
accidents not to do.
I live in the country, 100 miles due south of Midway airport Chicago. I
live about 19 miles East of Paxton airport 1C1 DNV is about 25 South of
impact. Kentland Indiana is about 25 Miles NE. Kankakee is about 35
Miles
North of impact. There are a few small strips closer. but none closer
than 10
miles.
Sunset was about 4:40 It was about one hour after sunset. The temp was
about 45 F winds light, very clear. A perfect VFR night. I fly a lot at
night
logging about 80 hours of night alone last year.
I personally was at Paxton airport making wheel pants for my KF2, wife was
at home about to leave to meet me for dinner when she saw a plane fly over
head
at about 250 feet. She texted me asking if it was me and that I was too
low
as she was driving to airport.
I said no, I am still in hanger..... wonder who was buzzing at night???
Then my phone rang off the hook because I am in a partnership in a warrior
based at 1C1 and one crashed near my house. They all thought it was me.
I am
glad it wasn't me, but sadly a sole was lost.
I am still looking out my window to see many flashing lights. FAA are to
arrive tomorrow morning.
Sandy said when the plane flew over, lights were on, engine seemed fine and
wings seemed level.
If what she says is correct, it was a gradual straight impact. Who knows.
Its still so early.
I am sorry this is not KF stuff, but certainly flying related,
Best
Dave KF 2
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Aerobatics(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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In a message dated 11/22/2006 3:49:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, spaghettiohead(at)hotmail.com writes:
| Quote: | Jeeez...CFIT?? Medical problem perhaps? Too many questions - keep us
updated...
Andrew
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CFI/CFII/MEI
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I will promise....
what is CFIT?
Coroner report say he was fine.... so far
I took photos from the air but dont know how to post....
Dave
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: off topic PA 28 crash |
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CFIT is the number one killer up here in alaska.. Controlled Flight Into Terrain. Generally speaking, it is when a pilot takes a perfectly good aircraft, make a few dumb mistakes (such as flying into a mountain pass in bad weather) and procedes to make himself a permanent part of the terrain..
oh yeah... and to keep it relevant, I hope no one from this list does this in a KITFOX.
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Aerobatics(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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Still not much news... with 48 hrs the plane was removed by NTSB.
Flew over with my kitfox and took a few photos. It appeared it went close to straight in. Also 1/2 a stab was found alone about 1,000 feet away. I asked the NTSB investigator and he would say nothing....
We have had spectacular weather for this time of year.... been getting all the KF flying possible.
Dave
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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: off topic PA 28 crash |
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Years ago I was in ANC listening to 3 bush pilots tell
stories. One was treated as the "boy" because he had
less than 30 years bush experience. This is why I was
just listening.....
Anyway, one spoke of a CFIT he did years earlier in
his Cub when he was the "boy". He flew around a
mountain and right into a snow storm white out. After
a few seconds he spotted a 55 gal drum off his wing
snd tried to make a 180 around it as a reference.
Puff, into the snow covered hill he went. When he
crawled out of the plane he discovered it was a coke
can and not a drum.
Being bush pilots, I am sure it was a true story. 
Kurt S.
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| Quote: | CFIT is the number one killer up here in alaska..
Controlled Flight Into Terrain. Generally speaking,
it is when a pilot takes a perfectly good aircraft,
make a few dumb mistakes (such and flying into a
mountain pass in bad weather) and procedes to make
himself a permanent part of the terrain..
oh yeah... and to keep it relevant, I hope no one
from this list does this in a KITFOX.
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Avid C W/582
1260 full lotus
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