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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

I see that many have band saws. Can I get by with an inexpensive
Ryobi/Rigid/Delta for $99? These all seem to run 3000 rpm.

Or do I really need a variable speed to drop things down to the 300-400 rpm
range?

Is the distance between the blade and the saw critical? I'm not sure how
long a typical piece being cut is and how long the stock it's being cut off
is?

I see quite a few people have a variable speed band saw from Harbor Freight.
It appears that it has been discontinued by Harbor Freight. What
brand/model would you recommend?

Thanks,

Bob


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

Bob:

I am using a $99 Delta, finishing the fuselage, and it has done everything I
have needed.

Steve Mills
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Naperville, Illinois
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

I think you can get by with an inexpensive one OK for the most part.
That said, it is actually nice to have variable speed, I used it
a lot, and it is also very very nice to have a 12" or larger throat.
I had times when I even couldn't cut a piece to length because 12"
was too short, but I think it would have been a lot harder with 9".
A 9" would absolutely be a worthy tool, but this is a case where
larger is probably better if you have space and can find it affordable.
I didn't start with a bandsaw initially, but it turned into one of
my favorite tools in the shop, and now that it's at the hanger I'm
thinking I need another one for the house. Just bought a nice 10"
drill press for the hanger tonight for $55 (demo model closeout),
so I can bring my junky old crapsman home from the hanger. Tools
are addicting.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bob Leffler wrote:
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I see that many have band saws. Can I get by with an inexpensive
Ryobi/Rigid/Delta for $99? These all seem to run 3000 rpm.

Or do I really need a variable speed to drop things down to the 300-400 rpm
range?

Is the distance between the blade and the saw critical? I'm not sure how
long a typical piece being cut is and how long the stock it's being cut off
is?

I see quite a few people have a variable speed band saw from Harbor Freight.
It appears that it has been discontinued by Harbor Freight. What
brand/model would you recommend?

Thanks,

Bob




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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

Make sure you can get a metal cutting blade (one with many teeth) for
the band saw you are considering. I have the 12" variable speed Harbor
Freight band saw. As with most Harbor Freight tools you get good value
but questionable quality, especially with electric tools. When I first
got my band saw, the variable speed controller did not work (this part
was quickly replaced). After a year of use one of the drive wheels
cracked and it took over 6 months to get a replacement part. As usual
you get what you pay for. If I were to do it again I am not sure what I
would do. You loose a lot of functionality by only having a 9" throat
and no variable speed, but a 12" name brand would be at least 3x the
harbor freight cost.

Larry Rosen
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I think you can get by with an inexpensive one OK for the most part.
That said, it is actually nice to have variable speed, I used it
a lot, and it is also very very nice to have a 12" or larger throat.
I had times when I even couldn't cut a piece to length because 12"
was too short, but I think it would have been a lot harder with 9".
A 9" would absolutely be a worthy tool, but this is a case where
larger is probably better if you have space and can find it affordable.
I didn't start with a bandsaw initially, but it turned into one of
my favorite tools in the shop, and now that it's at the hanger I'm
thinking I need another one for the house. Just bought a nice 10"
drill press for the hanger tonight for $55 (demo model closeout),
so I can bring my junky old crapsman home from the hanger. Tools
are addicting.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bob Leffler wrote:
>
>
> I see that many have band saws. Can I get by with an inexpensive
> Ryobi/Rigid/Delta for $99? These all seem to run 3000 rpm.
>
> Or do I really need a variable speed to drop things down to the
> 300-400 rpm
> range?
>
> Is the distance between the blade and the saw critical? I'm not sure
> how
> long a typical piece being cut is and how long the stock it's being
> cut off
> is?
>
> I see quite a few people have a variable speed band saw from Harbor
> Freight.
> It appears that it has been discontinued by Harbor Freight. What
> brand/model would you recommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob




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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

I have found that a good old fine toothed carbide power miter saw works
really well for many of the cuts. Apply pressure slowly. I also have a 12"
sears band saw which I like.

Dave Leikam
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

My Delta has worked like a champ...get a 59-1/2" 18 TPI blade and follow the alignment directions and it will cut like budda, tip #1....let the saw do the work and it will hold a nice straight line, force it and you will fight it to keep it going straight.

Rick S.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

Interesting.......

I have a 12" power miter saw. What the longest cut that I'll need to make?
My saw can cut a 2x6 with no problems. Are there any cuts that have to be
longer than 6"?

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

I am about to start riveting my tailcone, but I cannot think of more than a
few parts I had to cut much wider than a few inches. The miter sure makes
the angles easy. You have to be very careful on the thin stock like the
tailcone stiffeners. Support the part well on each side of the cut and
proceed slowly. I had been using my bandsaw and noticed my miter sitting
quietly when I thought, yeah - that would work good! And so far it is. If
I can cut it on the miter I will, if not I use the band saw or whatever else
will work.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

I have a Delta. 9". Works for 90% of the parts that you will need the saw
for. Otherwise, pick up a variable speed Dremel and use the cut off wheels
to do the cutting. I know of at least one RV-8 builder who bought and loved
the Sears variable speed 12". Whatever you choose, this becomes your metal
saw. No wood. As a long time wood worker, take my advice and don't even
think about combining your beautiful wood band saw for the metal work. Get
a cheap table top for your metal, buy a blade with lots of teeth and narrow,
and move on.

Did I say, "Move on!" Oh, my goodness. I'm becoming one of those......

John Jessen
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Band Saw Reply with quote

I have a Ryobi band saw, however I engaged a local saw works to make up
three specific blades, for cutting thin aluminium sheet, aluminium
angle/stock and plywood. The replacement blades are industrial quality
and induction hardened and are far superior to the blades supplied by
Ryobi. I had them made for AUS$18 each and they thew in a 1kg block of
solid lubricant wax to keep the blade lubricated and cool when cutting
stock. The baldes are interchangeable and cut through everything like a
hot knife through butter. Just contact your local saw works, you won't
regret it.

Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
Build #40299 (Started on Wings)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Band Saw Reply with quote

I'm getting ready to drill my tail cone so most of the multitude of parts I need to fabricate are done (for now). My Ryobi $99 from the Home Depot aviation department has worked well with the metal cutting blade they sell separately. I agree with the others that the 9" throat is a little confining, but snips, hacksaws, and dremels can fill the gap.
It's not a great bandsaw but it gets the job done. Secretly I wish I had a good compound miter saw with a metal cutting blade.

Best tool recommendation I've gotten from this site? The #30 and #40 reamer bits from Avery. Best bit I've ever used!

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