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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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 Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: A question about the QB fuselage and tools |
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Chris,
I can only comment on what I can see and attest to the quality of those
parts put together but not necessarily have I worked on them. All panels
that were held in place with a few half set blind rivets have been removed
and all the rivets that I can see are set well. The tail cone is riveted in
and I finally got hit with the idea that I better start getting a clear
vision of what I am going to do electrically and antenna wise down on paper.
For instance, I am under the current belief that despite training at night
flight when I was sixteen, I now do not believe it to be a very safe
undertaking. CC Glider pilots prepare for what we call outlandings, and I
have made a few, but we never have an engine that can quit, and we also have
much more time in glide. More importantly, we don't do an outlanding at
night. Get my point.
I am however wiring lights in because a 10 without them is just too
unsophisticated. Also, those flights where sunset time is approaching and
your 10-30 minutes behind schedule. In addition, I took some of this
electrical stuff in college physics, but aside from re-wiring a boat
trailer, I've forgotten. My "Aero Electric Connection" came in the mail
today and in addition to all the Eggenfellner information, I need to start
digesting this book rapidly. My question about the 12v and 14v LEDs today
showed my lack of understanding and in the short time I have had to look at
the book, the question has been answered. At least it shows I am eager to
know and learn.
Two comments I would like to make regarding tools: To Pascal, I understand
your desire to get the best price on tools, but I must comment that until
you start really using them, you will not realize what you have and more
importantly what you don't have. It will be frustrating to learn that the
order you placed yesterday or last week could have contained another item
that you now need. The wait for the next shipment is horrible. The extra
cost sucks too. Each time one orders from a different vender due to shopping
around, don't forget to add in the freight costs. It adds up and as all of
us probably have learned, don't ship expedighted and no deliveries on
Saturday...HELL NO!!! There goes all your savings from shopping around.
No amount of looking through the catalogs will tell you how to get at that
rivet with the gun, the bar or the pnuematic or how to make that dimple when
no tools you have will reach. Be careful while making allegation about
people's integrity when it is not your own experience. I do not know who
this Isham's tool supplier is, but I also think that you used text of
someone else who advised you, but you did not provide his name. It was just
really, really absolute. Like a "NO" slam dunk.
As Obewan would say, "Only Siths deal in absolutes"
I will just say that anyone who has not started building but has a good
understanding of their tool purchase(S), pick up this book and other that
will be needed and start digesting it. If you're a trust funder or retired
and can work on this project almost everyday...you're in a good place,
albiet it still is one hell of an undertaking. Full time work and family and
somethings got to give....Ya, I haven't watched Television for ten years now
so I have a handle on that. DVDs yah, but T.V. no, no, no!
The reward is no where as great, but the model planes(The really nice ones)
are more fun to build and you get done faster. Did I say that, good grief
Charlie Brown.....
Just feeling a little overwhelmed over the last few days.
No dentistry tomorrow, but wait, breakfast and make lunch for my daughter,
then 2 1/2hrs at my daughter's kindergarden/helping out teaching, then home
for an hour, then back down to her kindergarden for photos, then back over
the hill to pick up the Prius from it service...damm, it will be 2:30 or 3pm
by that time. Wife says don't worry she's going to grandmother tomorrow
night and saturday. I say, yah, but I have to sleep sometime after working
all week waking up at 5am. Start working on the plane at 3pm and go to 12pm
there's my nine hours. Don't fall asleep with a rivet gun in your hand.
And this was my relaxing/down time.
Signing off.
John G.
| Quote: | From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: A question about the QB fuselage
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:10:07 +1100
John have you started work on it??? Mine looked great to until I started
working on it. For instance the gear mounts were miss drilled big time
meaning hours of work to put larger bolts in. Also check the bolts in the
spars. Are they the correct ones?? Now lets not even talk about the baggage
door area!! I suppose I spent about 3 days fixing things ...no big deal
except for the gear mounts!!
Again my wings were perfect!
I am a second time builder so just telling you my opinion. If I was to
build again I would do a flat pack fuse and QB wings.
Regards Chris
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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: A question about the QB fuselage and tools |
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John Gonzalez wrote:
| Quote: | For instance, I am under the current belief that despite training at
night flight when I was sixteen, I now do not believe it to be a very
safe undertaking. CC Glider pilots prepare for what we call
outlandings, and I have made a few, but we never have an engine that
can quit, and we also have much more time in glide. More importantly,
we don't do an outlanding at night. Get my point.
I came out of my cc/racing days looking forward to a lot of VFR, daytime
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skyburning with some travel out of my community's lit turf strip. Nine
years later with an IFR tickie and 1,200 hours on my Maule I found that;
1) Boring holes in the sky with power just doesn't compare to soaring so
I don't do it, 2) Lit grass is one of the great joys of taildragging -
and absolutely ensential to using a plane for travel - I can't tell you
how many daytime TOs from E. Bumfuk to nighttime landings at home I've
done but it's made the cost more than worthwhile, 3) a gas pump on the
field is worth almost any price - I never considered fuel a key element
of flight before, go figure.
Nowadays, I barely feel safe walking from house to hangar at night (and
neither does my cat) but I do a minimal amount of night flying generally
to get home. It's some of the most important flying I do. Do get lights.
| Quote: | Two comments I would like to make regarding tools: To Pascal, I
understand your desire to get the best price on tools, but I must
comment that until you start really using them, you will not realize
what you have and more importantly what you don't have.
Good advice there. My experience was ditto. Yours will be too.
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| Quote: | ...I do not know who this Isham's tool supplier is, but I also think
that you used text of someone else who advised you, but you did not
provide his name. It was just really, really absolute. Like a "NO"
slam dunk.
I ordered my initial kit from Isham and had an excellent experience.
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Everything I needed, a few revisions handled perfectly, all as
promised. High quality and good advice throughout. It really saved
time. I went from there to ordering from Avery and Cleaveland due to
their well focused catalogs and popularity. Good experiences there too
- I prefer Cleaveland for no particular reason except Mike answering the
phone. With a little experience under my belt, I've made some Harbour
Freight purchases and intend to do some Yard Store purchases.... but my
tool buying has gone dormant for awhile.
The best advice I obtained about tools was from myself due to my
experience at the Alexander Tech Center. Jacob made a point of
encouraging me to use a variety of tools (e.g. 3 different hand squeezer
and a power squeezer). When asked, "Which is best? Jacob said, "The
one that works best for you". Sage advice from a very young man. My
initial choice often changed after use. The opportunities to try a
wide range of tools is unfortunately limited for most of us.
Just my 2 cents,
Bill Watson (4I, Foureyes, MauleDriver) "Initial close-up of the
tailcone - let's get that paint booth setup so we can prime"
http://www.mykitlog.com/MauleDriver/
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