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pacificpainting(at)comcas
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 Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: 801 Cargo Pod |
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Hello Fellow 801 Builders, (you other guys too)
Is the cargo pod I've seen pictures of a custom made installation or are there plans somewhere. I'm not sure if I would need one but there is probably mounting reinforcements that need to be installed in case I decided to.
Dave in Salem
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:20 am Post subject: 801 Cargo Pod |
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There are/was only two 801's with the cargo pods that I have seen. One is the 801 with the Walter Lom 6 cyl doing missionary work down in central america. The other one is the Lom powered one that disintigrated in mid air over at Nicholas Ca a few years back. I believe they are custom built units. Art Mitchell built both I think but he is probably never going to give any insite cause of the 801 he built was the fatal incident plane and you can bet his legal team has suggested he clam up.
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-- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting(at)comcast.net> wrote:
Hello Fellow 801 Builders, (you other guys too)
Is the cargo pod I've seen pictures of a custom made installation or are there plans somewhere. I'm not sure if I would need one but there is probably mounting reinforcements that need to be installed in case I decided to.
Dave in Salem
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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:39 am Post subject: 801 Cargo Pod |
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Lets add a bit to this, Art is back in Missionary work where he is truly happy doing the lords work. He is not completely gone from our lives and has helped us out on several occasions. The Cargo pod’s napkin drawings have been given to Can-Zac Aviation and we do plan on offering a pod for both the 801 and the 701 for the 2008 season. As for the 801 incident, this plane had several hundred hours on it and it broke up at about 14,000 + feet in which the pilot and passenger were proven to be heavily impaired with narcotics and possibly doing aerobatics at high altitude. Art and all of the Zenith family have been cleared from that incident.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president(at)can-zacaviation.com (president(at)can-zacaviation.com)
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: 801 Cargo Pod |
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I am aware of the impaired part but didn't know about the new owner putting on several hundred hours in such a short time. The 14,000+ altitude does explain the wreckage spread over two miles. I was in contact with the Faa office out in California and I thought they never could establish the true height. How did you come up with that figure? The last I heard second hand was the horizontal stabilizer tip extensions Art put on to give the LOM powered plane elevator authority broke and that sent the whole crash in motion. I am guessing that Can Zac used to be called Flypass, the company Art owned and ran? Inquiring minds and all.....
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Ben Haas
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www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca> wrote:
Lets add a bit to this, Art is back in Missionary work where he is truly happy doing the lords work. He is not completely gone from our lives and has helped us out on several occasions. The Cargo pod’s napkin drawings have been given to Can-Zac Aviation and we do plan on offering a pod for both the 801 and the 701 for the 2008 season. As for the 801 incident, this plane had several hundred hours on it and it broke up at about 14,000 + feet in which the pilot and passenger were proven to be heavily impaired with narcotics and possibly doing aerobatics at high altitude. Art and all of the Zenith family have been cleared from that incident. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president(at)can-zacaviation.com (president(at)can-zacaviation.com)
www.can-zacaviation.com
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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: 801 Cargo Pod |
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Hi Ben, The wreckage was spread over more then 2 miles when all was done. The 801 in question was Art Mitchell’s Demonstrator and number 2 in construction. It truly did have a lot of hours and many flights to Oshkosh. I am unaware of how many hours the new owner had on it. I got the figure of altitude from Chris Heintz.
As for Flypass, while Art Mitchell was the owner, Flypass was a respectable and truly a great company to deal with. After Art sold it to a partner he took on things changed, I’m not about to put down the new owners as I believe that in their own right are good people. I have talked with one of them on several occasions and he was friendly. But in this business, you not only have to be friendly and extremely approachable you have to be knowledgeable and able to help others along the trail. When Flypass would only deal with people on a cash up front basis and then not return any calls they slipped into ghost mode and only would see you if you had a cheque in hand. This is what I was informed about.
I can go into this further but not without going against my ethics of business. Lets suffice it to say that after 2 years without Art Mitchell it was very much time for a change. So Can-Zac Aviation was born, not from guys who were rich and wanted to make fistloads of money ( almost fell off chair laughing at that one!) but from two scratch builders who have spent the last few years helping many others build a Zenith aircraft. We Truly believe in Chris Heintz’s designs and even more in his philosophy of design and his desire for the average person to realize a dream, both David and I choose them for our own families before we even considered working with Chris. So Flypass happily removed themselves from the Zenith line and Can-Zac replaced them as the Canadian Distributor, everyone was amicable about the changes.
As discussed in the past Art Mitchell has helped us tremendously over the last two years and though we don’t have the records of the past we are able to draw upon Zenith to help us, help Flypass’s old customers. Most of you have noticed the difference, I’m a builder first and I try my best to be as helpful as possible. I don’t receive any payment for tech support to anyone and yet I have a huge client base of U.S citizens that I help out on a regular basis. I don’t know everything but, I do my best the rest is up to Chris and Nick to answer.
I have been a member of this list since the beginning and see no reason to stop ( well one, but he drives most of us nuts so I’m not alone). I don’t answer as many questions as I used to on this list but from time to time I do offer my opinion.
We started the Sun-N-Fun builders BBQ before there was ever a thought of Can-Zac Aviation, this was a builders gathering from builders (David, Jon, Rick and myself) for builders, we don’t ask any builder to pay ( though we do have a donation jar out) for their meal. When I first started planning on the first BBQ I thought we would have 10-15 builders show up a couple of portable BBq’s and I would pay for everything out of my own pocket, heck I consider most of you guys friends. But once the size grew to over 80 then 100 people I started asking for donations and a jar. The BBQ is still not an Official Zenith event, and it is not a Can-Zac Event either. It is a builders event for other builders, I will accept donations from Zenith suppliers and we have had several from Jabiru USA, Sport planes and others but we have never accepted anything more than a salad from Zenith. We are just happy that they attend after a long day of standing in the Sun!
So back to the original question. Flypass is gone from the Zenith Family and Can-Zac Aviation is a completely new , fresh company with the values that made Flypass such a great company to deal with.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president(at)can-zacaviation.com (president(at)can-zacaviation.com)
www.can-zacaviation.com
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