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rleffler
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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As many of you are painfully aware of my many questions, I'm getting ready to take the plunge into the RV10 world.
I've asked several RV10 builders that are local to me their opinions about what yokes do I need to get for my squeezer. Both replies I got was to use a 4" and a longeron. One indicated that while he had a 3", he didn't use it.
Today, I got the following response from Avery:
"Hi Bob, You need the 7730 three inch yoke. It is the one you will use the most. Change the 7555 into the 7530. That gives you one pneumatic with the three inch yoke. Re-add the 7755 longeron yoke. That gives you three yokes, the 7730 (part of the 7530), the 7755 longeron and the 7760 four inch no-hole. You could try to do without the 3" yoke, but I don't recommend it. I would leave the longeron off, before the 3 inch."
Since I have no experience to base a decision, I would like to solicit opinions from a larger group of builders.
I am on a somewhat constrained budget, which means I'm already spending more than my spouse is aware of at the moment. However, if it will make a significant difference in the ease of construction, I'm not opposed to getting the right tools.
So, what yokes do I need to purchase?
And yes, they will be attached to a pnuematic squeezer.
thanks,
bob
N410BL - RV10
N3493R - PA28-180
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Rick S.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 347 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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I have a 4" no hole, a 3" standard and a 2-1/2" longeron. All were used on the entire build, My favorite is the longeron because it wraps around areas the standard can't. The no hole fits where others can't the standard for a reasonbly longer reach. Don't forget the adjustable set, makes setting it up very fast unless your William "washer/shim man" Curtis who swears by his washer and shim method
I ground the nose of my 3" down slightly to allow it to operate close to rib flanges without scratching or scraping the rib in close quarters.
They can also be used a bucking bars in certain areas as well.
Rick S.
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mike(at)learningplanet.co Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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Hi Bob,
I'm sure you'll get many opinions on this. Here is mine:
I have all three types, but if I had to forego one of them it would be the 3". I have actually loaned out my 3" yoke and have not really missed it that much. Most of the time I leave the longeron yoke in my squeezer and only occasionally do I reach for the no-hole yoke.
Also, you should know that the 4" yoke will tend to deflect when squeezing larger rivets while the 3" didn't seem to give quite as much.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
#40576 - Wings - www.rvten.com
RV-9A - N63MS - flying
On Dec 6, 2006, at 3:03 PM, <rvmail(at)thelefflers.com (rvmail(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
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As many of you are painfully aware of my many questions, I'm getting ready to take the plunge into the RV10 world.
I've asked several RV10 builders that are local to me their opinions about what yokes do I need to get for my squeezer. Both replies I got was to use a 4" and a longeron. One indicated that while he had a 3", he didn't use it.
Today, I got the following response from Avery:
"Hi Bob, You need the 7730 three inch yoke. It is the one you will use the most. Change the 7555 into the 7530. That gives you one pneumatic with the three inch yoke. Re-add the 7755 longeron yoke. That gives you three yokes, the 7730 (part of the 7530), the 7755 longeron and the 7760 four inch no-hole. You could try to do without the 3" yoke, but I don't recommend it. I would leave the longeron off, before the 3 inch."
Since I have no experience to base a decision, I would like to solicit opinions from a larger group of builders.
I am on a somewhat constrained budget, which means I'm already spending more than my spouse is aware of at the moment. However, if it will make a significant difference in the ease of construction, I'm not opposed to getting the right tools.
So, what yokes do I need to purchase?
And yes, they will be attached to a pnuematic squeezer.
thanks,
bob
N410BL - RV10
N3493R - PA28-180 [b]
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Todd.Stovall(at)pentagon. Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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I've got a 3" and a longeron. A 4" no-hole (and the adjustable set
sized to go with it) would be nice but not a necessity (at least to this
point in the build HS Stab). Those that are further along/finished may
have more insight into the pros/cons of the 4". I've used the 3" the
most, but I know the longeron yoke will have it's day.
Todd
Dimpling the HS Stab
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jesse(at)itecusa.org Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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If going with one yoke, I would probably recommend either the 3" or the
Longeron. If going with two, I would get both the 3" and the Longeron. If
adding another, I would go with a no-hole, whether 3" or 4" (probably 4").
Next I would get a 2", probably, for tight places. The 3" is what we use
the most, but the longeron sure is nice in some places. You can kind-of
simulate a Longeron with the right deep die, but that gets a little harder
to get it in place. The 4" is quite heavy, by the way. The no-hole is
great for the other type of tight areas.
Hope this helps.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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sean(at)stephensville.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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My yoke priority...
1. Longeron
2. 3 inch
3. 4" no-hole
Longeron stays in the squeezer most often.
Definitely recommend the adjustable set
<http://cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SNSHA45>
The adjustable set holder is by far the most time-saving piece on the
squeezer.
-Sean #40303
Jesse Saint wrote:
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If going with one yoke, I would probably recommend either the 3" or the
Longeron. If going with two, I would get both the 3" and the Longeron. If
adding another, I would go with a no-hole, whether 3" or 4" (probably 4").
Next I would get a 2", probably, for tight places. The 3" is what we use
the most, but the longeron sure is nice in some places. You can kind-of
simulate a Longeron with the right deep die, but that gets a little harder
to get it in place. The 4" is quite heavy, by the way. The no-hole is
great for the other type of tight areas.
Hope this helps.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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kearney(at)shaw.ca Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: Yokes |
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Bob
If you are budget constrained, I suggest you call the Yard Store
(http://www.yardstore.com/) at 1-800-888-8991 and see if they have any used
squeezers in stock. I purchased a used one at a substantial discount - it
works just fine.
Cheers
Les Kearney
RV10 #40643
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