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John W. Lines
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Phelps Dodge Morenci Inc.
jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com (jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com)
928-865-6762
From: Lines, John
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'kitfox-list(at)matronics.com'
Subject: FW: model II mixer box upgrade
John W. Lines
Training Specialist
Apprenticeship Coordinator
Phelps Dodge Morenci Inc.
jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com (jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com)
928-865-6762
From: Lines, John
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:10 PM
To: 'kitfox-list(at)matronics.com'
Subject: model II mixer box upgrade
Hi folks, new to the group. I have heard that someone has grafted in an flaperon mixer from a IV or later model. Not wanting to re-invent the wheel, I would relish some info / contact point on the subject. My model II is a great performer, but the flaperons “stink”. Some of you may have seen my bird…..it is the model II that used to be on the “old” Skystar website. Fly safe and thanks, JWL
John W. Lines
Training Specialist
Apprenticeship Coordinator
Phelps Dodge Morenci Inc.
jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com (jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com)
928-865-6762
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: model II mixer box upgrade |
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I'm curious John. Why do you say they stink? I've had both and although they're different, both have their good points. The upgraded mixer provides less adverse yaw, but at the expense of it being more difficult to fold the wings, as more things have to be disconnected. There have been many damaged flaperons while folding the wings on the IV and above. The III and below mixer is more complex, and provides more adverse yaw, but it's easily mastered and after awhile it's not noticeable. Folding the wings is a breeze because nothing needs to be disconnected other than to pull the spar pins.
It wouldn't be reinventing the wheel to change over, but it would be a major project and IMO the result wouldn't be worth the effort and considerable expense. Just my opinion John and others may differ. I believe I recall someone on the list who successfully accomplished this mod, but I can't recall who it was. Good luck in whatever you decide to do and keep us informed.
Deke
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From: Lines, John
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:10 PM
To: 'kitfox-list(at)matronics.com'
Subject: model II mixer box upgrade
Hi folks, new to the group. I have heard that someone has grafted in an flaperon mixer from a IV or later model. Not wanting to re-invent the wheel, I would relish some info / contact point on the subject. My model II is a great performer, but the flaperons “stink”. Some of you may have seen my bird…..it is the model II that used to be on the “old” Skystar website. Fly safe and thanks, JWL
John W. Lines
Training Specialist
Apprenticeship Coordinator
Phelps Dodge Morenci Inc.
jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com (jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com)
928-865-6762
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JLines(at)phelpsdodge.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: model II mixer box upgrade |
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Thanks for the reply Deke. I have never cared for the roll response on my II. I guess I have been spoiled, but they just don’t respond the way I have grown to desire. I also do not like the interference with roll as the flaperons are lowered. Perhaps I want more than is available from the design. A wing fold problem doesn’t concern me too much, as they stay straight most of the time. I’m sure the receipt of more info from someone who has grafted in the later system will have a lot to do with what I decide to do. Thanks a ton, jwl
John W. Lines
Training Specialist
Apprenticeship Coordinator
Phelps Dodge Morenci Inc.
jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com (jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com)
928-865-6762
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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:55 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: model II mixer box upgrade
I'm curious John. Why do you say they stink? I've had both and although they're different, both have their good points. The upgraded mixer provides less adverse yaw, but at the expense of it being more difficult to fold the wings, as more things have to be disconnected. There have been many damaged flaperons while folding the wings on the IV and above. The III and below mixer is more complex, and provides more adverse yaw, but it's easily mastered and after awhile it's not noticeable. Folding the wings is a breeze because nothing needs to be disconnected other than to pull the spar pins.
It wouldn't be reinventing the wheel to change over, but it would be a major project and IMO the result wouldn't be worth the effort and considerable expense. Just my opinion John and others may differ. I believe I recall someone on the list who successfully accomplished this mod, but I can't recall who it was. Good luck in whatever you decide to do and keep us informed.
Deke
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From: Lines, John
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:10 PM
To: 'kitfox-list(at)matronics.com'
Subject: model II mixer box upgrade
Hi folks, new to the group. I have heard that someone has grafted in an flaperon mixer from a IV or later model. Not wanting to re-invent the wheel, I would relish some info / contact point on the subject. My model II is a great performer, but the flaperons “stink”. Some of you may have seen my bird…..it is the model II that used to be on the “old” Skystar website. Fly safe and thanks, JWL
John W. Lines
Training Specialist
Apprenticeship Coordinator
Phelps Dodge Morenci Inc.
jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com (jliines(at)phelpsdodge.com)
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