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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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 Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: My experience with backrivet sets |
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I've been using the backrivet set from ATS and getting acceptable
results. However, I recently had my first opportunity to use a 12" long
backrivet from Cleaveland and discovered that it was easier to get good
results.
The ATS has a thick plastic collar that I had to grind a flat spot on in
order to get squarely on the J stiffener rivets. I've hit it twice more
with the grinder to ease access on other rivets.
The ATS also has a convex face on the set. I found that unless the set
was well centered and straight, it was easy to get tilted, concave shop
heads.
The Cleaveland 12" tool (or whoever's tool they distribute) has a thin
plastic collar and I found it fit the J stiffeners very nicely. The face
of the set is flatter and it's easier to get square, flat shop heads. I
just ordered their normal length backrivet set and understand it is
setup the same as the 12".
Just sharing the experience.
Bill (backriveting the tailcone & trying to finish those elevators) Watson
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Rick S.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: My experience with backrivet sets |
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That same set is great for backriveting your top wing skins on with as
well....put the bucking bar on the rivet head and set the rivet using the
12" set from inside the wing. It took us about an hour and a half to do all
of the top skins after placing the rivets and taping half of them in,
removing clecos and repeating. Used the 3lb dumbell looking bucking bar from
Cleavland. Not a blemish one on the top skins.
Rick S.
40185
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: My experience with backrivet sets |
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This is an interesting observation. I was just thinking about that tool.
My experience was that mine was too much tool for my #2 rivet gun and it
didn't back rivet very well. I thought the shaft was too thick, too heavy
and didn't allow the #2 gun to throw its' punch well enough into the rivet.
Maybe mine is an Avery, but it is a 12" offset back rivet set. I would love
to get a smaller diameter one with a smaller plastic cap.
The little straight, three inch one works like a charm. But can't use it in
the spots you are talking about(these rivets on the J stiffners right next
to the bulkheads)
John G.
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Subject: My experience with backrivet sets
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:42:52 -0500
I've been using the backrivet set from ATS and getting acceptable results.
However, I recently had my first opportunity to use a 12" long backrivet
from Cleaveland and discovered that it was easier to get good results.
The ATS has a thick plastic collar that I had to grind a flat spot on in
order to get squarely on the J stiffener rivets. I've hit it twice more
with the grinder to ease access on other rivets.
The ATS also has a convex face on the set. I found that unless the set was
well centered and straight, it was easy to get tilted, concave shop heads.
The Cleaveland 12" tool (or whoever's tool they distribute) has a thin
plastic collar and I found it fit the J stiffeners very nicely. The face of
the set is flatter and it's easier to get square, flat shop heads. I just
ordered their normal length backrivet set and understand it is setup the
same as the 12".
Just sharing the experience.
Bill (backriveting the tailcone & trying to finish those elevators) Watson
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mike(at)cleavelandtool.co
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: My experience with backrivet sets |
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Thanks again Bill for the kind words.
We designed and manufacture our own. We find it works better in a variety of areas. The thin collars occasionally fracture, but it is worth the risk, and we have replacements if that happens. Originally we made the collars out of aluminum. We had complaints that it marked the back side up. Although this is not really a problem functionally we switched to the delrin material.
Mike
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Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
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www.cleavelandtool.com
On 1/2/07, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
I've been using the backrivet set from ATS and getting acceptable
results. However, I recently had my first opportunity to use a 12" long
backrivet from Cleaveland and discovered that it was easier to get good
results.
The ATS has a thick plastic collar that I had to grind a flat spot on in
order to get squarely on the J stiffener rivets. I've hit it twice more
with the grinder to ease access on other rivets.
The ATS also has a convex face on the set. I found that unless the set
was well centered and straight, it was easy to get tilted, concave shop
heads.
The Cleaveland 12" tool (or whoever's tool they distribute) has a thin
plastic collar and I found it fit the J stiffeners very nicely. The face
of the set is flatter and it's easier to get square, flat shop heads. I
just ordered their normal length backrivet set and understand it is
setup the same as the 12".
Just sharing the experience.
Bill (backriveting the tailcone & trying to finish those elevators) Watson [quote][b]
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