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Lee Logan
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 Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/25/06 |
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Those pictures of the B-1 gear up landing went around the "military circuit" several months ago. My understanding is that the crew was fully aware the gear were up and spent a long time trying to get it down. When all emergency modes failed, they made an on-purpose gear up landing with emergency crews standing by. The military stopped foaming the runway for landings such as this quite a few years ago: Just makes the airplane slide farther and it's better to have the firefighting foam still in the truck to fight any fire that breaks out after landing than on the runway way behind you. The captions I saw said the aircraft was not seriously damaged.
Not to say military crews never make mistakes, they do of course (lots of them, but then they have a lot to do), but this is the kind of stuff where they really earn their money. Anyone can fly the airplane when everything is working right.
Regards,
Lee...
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john.erickson(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/25/06 |
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Not exactly. To read the accident report yourself, go to http://usaf.aib.law.af.mil/B-1_8May06.pdf and enjoy...
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lee Logan
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 7:54 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/25/06
Those pictures of the B-1 gear up landing went around the "military circuit" several months ago. My understanding is that the crew was fully aware the gear were up and spent a long time trying to get it down. When all emergency modes failed, they made an on-purpose gear up landing with emergency crews standing by. The military stopped foaming the runway for landings such as this quite a few years ago: Just makes the airplane slide farther and it's better to have the firefighting foam still in the truck to fight any fire that breaks out after landing than on the runway way behind you. The captions I saw said the aircraft was not seriously damaged.
Not to say military crews never make mistakes, they do of course (lots of them, but then they have a lot to do), but this is the kind of stuff where they really earn their money. Anyone can fly the airplane when everything is working right.
Regards,
Lee...
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simon(at)synchronousdesig
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/25/06 |
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John,
So what happens to guys (and gals) that have many years of service experience combined with somewhat high ranking positions (Major, Lt. Col, Col) that make such a drastic mistake? It doesn't reflect well on their record, so my guess is that they will get RIFed out of the service, unless they have superior political connections.
BTW, thanks for setting us straight on what really happened by using an official document. This argument could have raged on forever.
Simon Ramirez, Aerocanard Builder
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Oviedo, FL 32765 USA
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Erickson
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:38 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/25/06
Not exactly. To read the accident report yourself, go to http://usaf.aib.law.af.mil/B-1_8May06.pdf and enjoy...
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lee Logan
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 7:54 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/25/06
Those pictures of the B-1 gear up landing went around the "military circuit" several months ago. My understanding is that the crew was fully aware the gear were up and spent a long time trying to get it down. When all emergency modes failed, they made an on-purpose gear up landing with emergency crews standing by. The military stopped foaming the runway for landings such as this quite a few years ago: Just makes the airplane slide farther and it's better to have the firefighting foam still in the truck to fight any fire that breaks out after landing than on the runway way behind you. The captions I saw said the aircraft was not seriously damaged.
Not to say military crews never make mistakes, they do of course (lots of them, but then they have a lot to do), but this is the kind of stuff where they really earn their money. Anyone can fly the airplane when everything is working right.
Regards,
Lee...
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