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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Audio Shields Reply with quote

Bob and other listers,

I have several audio devices that will have to share one input to my audio panel. I understand the wiring and installation of resistors but the shields have my not sure of the best way to do the install. I am using d-sub connectors mid way between the devices and the audio panel to install the resistors so that I can easily remove and change the values if needed to adjust individual volumes.

The shield on one device is connected (by the manufacturer at the device end the others say connect at the audio panel. I understand the ground loop problem with connecting at each end. The question is, Is it a good practice to shield the device side terminated at the device but not at the d-sub and the audio panel side terminated at the audio panel but not at the d-sub. This would cover most of the wire except the d-sub in the middle of the run and still not lead to a ground loop. Am I understand the idea correctly? If not I would appreciate a little help with this. Thanks in advance. Don


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Audio Shields Reply with quote

Bob and other listers,

I have several audio devices that will have to share one input to my audio panel. I understand the wiring and installation of resistors but the shields have my not sure of the best way to do the install. I am using d-sub connectors mid way between the devices and the audio panel to install the resistors so that I can easily remove and change the values if needed to adjust individual volumes.

The shield on one device is connected (by the manufacturer at the device end the others say connect at the audio panel. I understand the ground loop problem with connecting at each end. The question is, Is it a good practice to shield the device side terminated at the device but not at the d-sub and the audio panel side terminated at the audio panel but not at the d-sub. This would cover most of the wire except the d-sub in the middle of the run and still not lead to a ground loop. Am I understand the idea correctly? If not I would appreciate a little help with this. Thanks in advance. Don


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Audio Shields Reply with quote

At 01:27 PM 1/12/2007 -0800, you wrote:

Quote:


Bob and other listers,

I have several audio devices that will have to share one input to my audio
panel. I understand the wiring and installation of resistors but the
shields have my not sure of the best way to do the install. I am using
d-sub connectors mid way between the devices and the audio panel to
install the resistors so that I can easily remove and change the values if
needed to adjust individual volumes.

The shield on one device is connected (by the manufacturer at the device
end the others say connect at the audio panel. I understand the ground
loop problem with connecting at each end. The question is, Is it a
good practice to shield the device side terminated at the device but not
at the d-sub and the audio panel side terminated at the audio panel but
not at the d-sub. This would cover most of the wire except the d-sub in
the middle of the run and still not lead to a ground loop. Am I
understand the idea correctly? If not I would appreciate a little help
with this. Thanks in advance. Don


With all your goodies co-located on the panel, it probably
doesn't matter if you ground at one end or both . . . and given
the relatively short leads, all the wiring could probably be done
with no shielding whatsoever!

The latest addition to the AeroElectric Connection is a chapter
on audio systems which you're free to download at:

http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/18Audio_R11.pdf

It speaks to the simple "resistor mixing" technique
you've cited . . . and also illustrates various combinations
of intercoms, audio isolation amplifiers and audio sources.
I think you'll find enough information in this document
to proceed with your installation.

Bob . . .
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< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Audio Shields Reply with quote

Bob,
Thanks for the reply. I read the new chapter last night. The only thing that I was not sure about was the shields. I will give it a shot with no shields attached. Don
---- "Robert L. Nuckolls wrote:
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At 01:27 PM 1/12/2007 -0800, you wrote:

>
>
>Bob and other listers,
>
>I have several audio devices that will have to share one input to my audio
>panel. I understand the wiring and installation of resistors but the
>shields have my not sure of the best way to do the install. I am using
>d-sub connectors mid way between the devices and the audio panel to
>install the resistors so that I can easily remove and change the values if
>needed to adjust individual volumes.
>
>The shield on one device is connected (by the manufacturer at the device
>end the others say connect at the audio panel. I understand the ground
>loop problem with connecting at each end. The question is, Is it a
>good practice to shield the device side terminated at the device but not
>at the d-sub and the audio panel side terminated at the audio panel but
>not at the d-sub. This would cover most of the wire except the d-sub in
>the middle of the run and still not lead to a ground loop. Am I
>understand the idea correctly? If not I would appreciate a little help
>with this. Thanks in advance. Don


With all your goodies co-located on the panel, it probably
doesn't matter if you ground at one end or both . . . and given
the relatively short leads, all the wiring could probably be done
with no shielding whatsoever!

The latest addition to the AeroElectric Connection is a chapter
on audio systems which you're free to download at:

http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/18Audio_R11.pdf

It speaks to the simple "resistor mixing" technique
you've cited . . . and also illustrates various combinations
of intercoms, audio isolation amplifiers and audio sources.
I think you'll find enough information in this document
to proceed with your installation.

Bob . . .


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< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
---------------------------------------------------------







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