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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Winter Ops Reply with quote

I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my new CJ . With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that anyone might be able to provide.

Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling of cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown? Any issues with the pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water separators or brakes? Part of my trip home takes me through the Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta, any special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?

Thanks in advance!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Winter Ops Reply with quote

Mark,
Other than the insulated cowl blanket that you have already ordered, I
might suggest installing the oil cooler winterization kit. This kit has
a movable door that installs in the oil cooler duct. In winter some
CJ's are nearly impossible to keep the oil in the green at altitude on a
cold day, this kit solves the problem and also comes with a FOD screen
to keep junk out of the oil cooler duct. A bit more on the insulated
cowl blanket, if you sew Velcro on to a few spots on the inside where
the insulated blanket fits against the lower cowl and install 2 of the
110 volt heating pads it really makes a huge difference IF you have
access to electricity it will work wonders.

I have a hunch that at the temps you will be operating in your shutters
will be closed most of the time. Do you have a heater of any kind? Are
you traveling alone? If you are use duct tape to tape all the seams on
the rear canopy closed, the majority of all the cold air coming into the
cockpit comes in under the rear skirt of the rear canopy. In the nose
and main gear wells there are many holes that you can tape up to stop
the cold air also.

Give me a call (at) 509-826-4610 if you need some more info on any of the
above.

Always Yakin,
Doug

CJcanuck wrote:

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I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my new CJ . With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that anyone might be able to provide.

Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling of cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown? Any issues with the pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water separators or brakes? Part of my trip home takes me through the Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta, any special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?

Thanks in advance!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Winter Ops Reply with quote

Mark-

You may also want to see if you can track down a winter flight suit
- CWU- 64/P or plan on wearing a snow mobile one piece suit. Even if
you have heat, it's going to be cold. I just flew this weekend and my
YAK has heat, but after about 30 minutes in -10F my feet and lower
back really started feeling the cold.
Steve
On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Doug Sapp wrote:

Quote:


Mark,
Other than the insulated cowl blanket that you have already
ordered, I might suggest installing the oil cooler winterization
kit. This kit has a movable door that installs in the oil cooler
duct. In winter some CJ's are nearly impossible to keep the oil in
the green at altitude on a cold day, this kit solves the problem
and also comes with a FOD screen to keep junk out of the oil cooler
duct. A bit more on the insulated cowl blanket, if you sew Velcro
on to a few spots on the inside where the insulated blanket fits
against the lower cowl and install 2 of the 110 volt heating pads
it really makes a huge difference IF you have access to electricity
it will work wonders.
I have a hunch that at the temps you will be operating in your
shutters will be closed most of the time. Do you have a heater of
any kind? Are you traveling alone? If you are use duct tape to
tape all the seams on the rear canopy closed, the majority of all
the cold air coming into the cockpit comes in under the rear skirt
of the rear canopy. In the nose and main gear wells there are
many holes that you can tape up to stop the cold air also.
Give me a call (at) 509-826-4610 if you need some more info on any of
the above.

Always Yakin,
Doug

CJcanuck wrote:

>
>
> I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my
> new CJ . With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on
> winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that anyone
> might be able to provide.
>
> Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling of
> cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown? Any issues with the
> pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water
> separators or brakes? Part of my trip home takes me through the
> Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta, any
> special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --------
> Alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of man's problems!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89800#89800
>
>




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Winter Ops Reply with quote

I've often wondered if heated motorcycle clothing would help in the
winter...
like the stuff here:

http://www.gerbing.com/

I have no idea what the current load is.... but even if you don't
have a 12 volt output then maybe you could secure some batteries in
the backseat somehow and run off of them....

Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Fox wrote:

Quote:


Mark-

You may also want to see if you can track down a winter flight
suit - CWU- 64/P or plan on wearing a snow mobile one piece suit.
Even if you have heat, it's going to be cold. I just flew this
weekend and my YAK has heat, but after about 30 minutes in -10F my
feet and lower back really started feeling the cold.
Steve
On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Doug Sapp wrote:

>
>
> Mark,
> Other than the insulated cowl blanket that you have already
> ordered, I might suggest installing the oil cooler winterization
> kit. This kit has a movable door that installs in the oil cooler
> duct. In winter some CJ's are nearly impossible to keep the oil
> in the green at altitude on a cold day, this kit solves the
> problem and also comes with a FOD screen to keep junk out of the
> oil cooler duct. A bit more on the insulated cowl blanket, if you
> sew Velcro on to a few spots on the inside where the insulated
> blanket fits against the lower cowl and install 2 of the 110 volt
> heating pads it really makes a huge difference IF you have access
> to electricity it will work wonders.
> I have a hunch that at the temps you will be operating in your
> shutters will be closed most of the time. Do you have a heater of
> any kind? Are you traveling alone? If you are use duct tape to
> tape all the seams on the rear canopy closed, the majority of all
> the cold air coming into the cockpit comes in under the rear skirt
> of the rear canopy. In the nose and main gear wells there are
> many holes that you can tape up to stop the cold air also.
> Give me a call (at) 509-826-4610 if you need some more info on any
> of the above.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug
>
> CJcanuck wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my
>> new CJ . With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on
>> winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that
>> anyone might be able to provide.
>>
>> Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling
>> of cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown? Any issues with the
>> pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water
>> separators or brakes? Part of my trip home takes me through the
>> Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta, any
>> special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> --------
>> Alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of man's problems!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89800#89800
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>




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