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occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: Coverings (again)

I have a friend who has been suggesting that I  consider the Hipec system for recovering my wings. I have ordered his book and  information. It appears to be a Canadian product. Has anyone got any  experience?? 

  

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dave

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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: Coverings (again)

Dave,  It is kinda like the arguement  about  to rib stitch or not. 

  

 You can even use other than aircraft paints if you  prefer.   Another arguement.

  

 Then you can look at history of how many Kitfox  alone have had fabric separate from the ribs with no stitching. 

  

 1.7 cecontite is about 7or 8  $ a yard in  Canada   -- how does this compare with HIPEC? 

  

  

 Dave

  

  

  

 http://www.supercub.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=134061

  

 http://www.airtalk.org/any-info-on-hipec-no-rib-stitching-vt17520.html

  

  

  

  

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occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: Coverings (again)

The Hipec fellow uses Ceconite as the fabric, I  think my 1992 Denney Mod IV was originally covered in something other than  Polyfiber fabric. I'm not sure what the factory shipped then but it's light and  very tightly woven. The link to Hipec is here. http://hipec.falconaravia.com/ Prices  in $Can and $ US are there. It sure uses a lot less coats. As far as rib  sitching, Polyfiber recommends it, but that seems to be due to an abundance of  liability lawyers. Whatever process I use, I'll use the full process  recommended. 

  

  

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occom

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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: Coverings (again)

Just curious, I'm not aware that this has ever  happenned on a 'fox let alone with any disasterous results. Do you know  otherwise? 

  

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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: Coverings (again)

Dave G.

  

     I covered my Classic IV with the Hipec  system.  I modified it slightly though in that I used the Attach Gloo and  the Sun Barrier to attach the fabric (2.7 oz.Ceconite) to the airframe.   After that dried I scuff sanded the Sun Barrier to provide a tooth to the  surface and painted the plane with 1.3 HG Imron one part water based  polyurethane paint.  I chose the Imron because it has very low  volatile organic compounds (VOCs).  It is also very resistant to fuel and  covers fabric, metal or fibreglass. It also has a very glossy lustre.   The Sun Barrier was very easy to apply; just use a foam roller to fill the  weave  of the  fabric.  Use the Sun Barrier in a well  ventilated room as it contains isocyanates just like some of the other covering  methods.  When I sprayed the Imron I just used a particulate mask.   The Imron dries to a nice glossy lustre in about twenty minutes.  Since  covering in August 2005 I have tacked up a piece of finished fabric and my fence  outside and have not noticed any loss of lustre or any other bad  effects.  I am very satisfied with the results.  No finish  tapes.  One coat of sun barrier, one coat of Imron.  About six gallons  of total product used.

  

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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: Coverings (again)

Dave,  yes that was my point .   

  

 I am not aware of and non stitched Kitfoxes with  separation. Some choose to stitch and the other 90% seem to not have problems. I  do in fact stand to be corrected  though.   

  

  

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