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zodiacjeff(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: speed brakes

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> I know the below was said in jest but some might believe it.  Go back  in the archives, now so bloated that they are unusable, and you'll read of a  crash with a 601 caused by one of the wing lockers being unfastened and coming  up in flight after takeoff.

  

 <Speed brake?! Are We Still talking about the CH601?



<Got me  thinking.. could beef up the wing locker doors and see what kind of  

<hydraulics Harbor Freight has.

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: speed brakes

Jeff-

     HF has a  port-a-power ensemble listed for $199.95.

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 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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MaxNr(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: Speed brakes

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 Yes! I was kinding about Wing Locker Door Speed Brakes! (aka:W.L.D.S.B.) First activation would jettison all dirty laundry and paper towels overboard. You did buy the retro rockets tho.

 

 Bob

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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 488
Location: "Thumb" of Michigan

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Re: speed brakes

Actually those wing lockers remind me of the access panels on a P51 that are opened to load belts of ammo for the 50 cal.   Why not stick a fake 50 Browning MG barrel in the leading edge of the wing and adorn the baggage lid with the appropriate ammo-loading stencils?   That might get the attention of the wandering TSA type.



Tim

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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: speed brakes

And you could use the barrel as you pitot tube

  

  

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Actually those wing lockers remind me of the    access panels on a P51 that are opened to load belts of ammo for the 50    cal.   Why not stick a fake 50 Browning MG barrel in the leading    edge of the wing and adorn the baggage lid with the appropriate ammo-loading    stencils?   That might get the attention of the wandering TSA    type.



Tim



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David X

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 154
Location: Princeton, NJ, USA

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: speed brakes

Why would the hinges be in the rear of the wing locker instead of the front. That's about the only way I could imagine the door coming open. 



I've taken off without fastening the wing locker door (not intentionally) and it just hugs the wing in flight. I circled back for a landing and popped them shut. No biggy. Of course, the hinges are forward.

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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 488
Location: "Thumb" of Michigan

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:15 am Post subject: Re: speed brakes

David,



Good to know - I wondered if the area of low pressure above the wing would pull the door up at all....  glad to know it wasn't a problem.  



Tim

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mfothergill(at)sympatico.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: speed brakes

Hi;

On an 601HD, the door opens to almost 45 degrees and creates a lot of 

drag and loss of lift. It is like losing an engine in a twin. Never turn 

into that side and keep the speed up right onto the ground.

Forgetting to lock the door caused by distraction by spectators 

questions about the airplane.

Mike

CH-601 HDS



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 Good to know - I wondered if the area of low pressure above the wing would pull the door up at all....  glad to know it wasn't a problem.  

 

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Trainnut01(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: speed brakes

Just a thought-it sure would be easy to put warning lights on those locker  doors.

 Carroll

  

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pilot4pay

Joined: 01 Jan 2007
Posts: 171
Location: Louisville, KY

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: speed brakes

Better yet, a loud  obnoxious game show quality buzzer type anunciator!

 CS

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 Just a thought-it sure would be easy to put warning lights on those locker  doors.

 Carroll

  

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Trainnut01(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: speed brakes

How about a starter interlock?

 CJ

  

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: Re: speed brakes

I think you might be kidding here but the thought of any starter interlock on an airplane gives me the heebee geebees.



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[quote="Trainnut01(at)aol.com"]How about a starter interlock?

 CJ

  

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Trainnut01(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: speed brakes

Just kidding.

 CJ

  

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