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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

Is anyone else having trouble getting their parts from WW.

  

 601 XL engine on floor

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ashontz

Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 723

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

Just out of curiosity, what kind of problems are you having with them? I'm going with the Corvair myself too.

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

When I ordered my engine, which WW is building, a couple of weeks ago he gave me a 6 to 8 week turnaround time. I took it with a grain of salt when he told me he had 4 other engines ahead of me.



Have you called him about your parts?

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601XL Under Construction
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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

He has out right lied to me about when he would be shipping my parts to me.  I have called Zenith and they are calling him to try to help. He keeps telling  me he will ship them this week. That has been going on since DEC.

  

 I would not go with the corvair again. I have nothing against the engine,  in fact I really like it but William doesn't know how to run a  business.

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ashontz

Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 723

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

I plan on rebuilding the engine myself so if he can just ship a book to me without a lot of hassle that'll be good enough for me. Just looking at him, he seems to be exceptionally intelligent, kind of like the absentminded professor that forgets to put his pants on. I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing when it comes to engineering, aviation, and the Corvair in particular, like you said though, he may be a little off on the business end of things, but that because his head is literally and figuratively in the clouds. Can't blame him for that.

Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

He called me last week and told me about a guy that was selling a FWF for  8,000.00. I thought that was strange since he still hasn't sent me the parts I  had ordered from him. He also said he has no idea when the nose bowls would be  done since the new guy he got to make them isn't making them due to the fact  that he got a larger order from another company. I honestly think he is building  yesterday parts with today's money.

 I heard of 1 guy that has waited a year for a nose bowl and is pleading  with someone to help him find one so he can finish his project. Guys this is  very sad.  

  

  

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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

He also told me the he was behind because some old guy was hanging around  and bugging him for his engine that William was building. He said now he would  get caught up... I just wonder if the guy was hanging around because he was sick  and tired of the delays. I would be very careful  sending your money to  him. 

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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

I agree with you 100% he is a brilliant man no doubt but the bottom line is  I gave him my money and he made me one promise after another that he didn't  follow thru with.

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skyguynca

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 128

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

William is actually a very upstanding guy. He is pretty honest and does  great work. One thing I found in dealing with him is that he is a very very bad  estimater on things in relation to time. He is really trying and he believes he  will finish with his product on time, he is just estimating about 1/2 as many  hours as required.

  

 David Mikesell

23597 N. Hwy 99

Acampo, CA 95220

209-224-4485

skyguynca(at)skyguynca.com (skyguynca(at)skyguynca.com)

www.skyguynca.com

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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

I would agree with you except he told me my mount would be shipped one week  then the next week I called and he told me the metal shipment was due in a few  days and he would be building it that week and then ship it for me. Now that my  friend was a bold face lie.

 What he needs is competition. 

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ashontz

Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 723

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

[quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]I would agree with you except he told me my mount would be shipped one week  then the next week I called and he told me the metal shipment was due in a few  days and he would be building it that week and then ship it for me. Now that my  friend was a bold face lie.

 What he needs is competition. 

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Maybe he just needs more help.



Is it safe to say that at least ordering the book should be no problem?

mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

Look guys and gals,

  

 Don't you think you are being a little hard  on the guy.  What follows is not a rant or tirade, but a few  suggestions.  Everyone is welcome to hit the delete key if they  want.

  

 William has been nothing but helpful to  hundreds of folks at no cost.  He has made it possible for most of us to be  able to have our own plane and to still be safe about it for a reasonable  cost.  His track record is second to none and for at least half the  money of comparable engines.

  

 He also does not run and hide when  something ends up being a problem.  He posts every bit of research and  gives the best solution from a money, safety and experience  perspective.

  

 Sure he has more work than he can handle,  but didn't you know that going in?

  

 Just take a look at the turnout he always  gets and the crowds that are being converted to Corvair Flyers.  If he  wants to keep his business small and keep from growing into a nameless face of a  company that's fine with me.  He may  even still be around 10 years from now because of it.

  

 Just order your parts well in advance or  build them yourself.  This world we live in has conditioned us to expect  everything now, but I think some things are worth the wait.

  

 I will see you at the airport in my plane  someday thanks to William Wynne, the EAA, a few local builders and  Zenith.  These are the folks I have learned to trust.

  

 Kindest Regards,

 Matt Stecher in Katy, TX

 XL Corvair

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ter_turn(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

I have an xtra never been used WW Corvair manual which I'll get in the mail asap to whomever wants to save ten bucks.

   

  email me offline.

   

  Terry Turnquist

  601-XL Plans

  St. Peters, MO

   

   

   

   

  Matt Stecher <mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

  [quote]    Look guys and gals,

   

  Don't you think you are being a little hard on the guy.  What follows is not a rant or tirade, but a few suggestions.  Everyone is welcome to hit the delete key if they want.

   

  William has been nothing but helpful to hundreds of folks at no cost.  He has made it possible for most of us to be able to have our own plane and to still be safe about it for a reasonable cost.  His track record is second to none and for at least half the money of comparable engines.

   

  He also does not run and hide when something ends up being a problem.  He posts every bit of research and gives the best solution from a money, safety and experience perspective.

   

  Sure he has more work than he can handle, but didn't you know that going in?

   

  Just take a  look at the turnout he always gets and the crowds that are being converted to Corvair Flyers.  If he wants to keep his business small and keep from growing into a nameless face of a company that's fine with me.  He may even still be around 10 years from now because of it.

   

  Just order your parts well in advance or build them yourself.  This world we live in has conditioned us to expect everything now, but I think some things are worth the wait.

   

  I will see you at the airport in my plane someday thanks to William Wynne, the EAA, a few local builders and Zenith.  These are the folks I have learned to trust.

   

  Kindest Regards,

  Matt Stecher in Katy, TX

  XL Corvair

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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

You must only read what you want and then chime in on the rest. I don't  give a shift about his track record or how many people he has helped in the  past. If the man can't do what he says he is a liar. I gave him my money in good  faith and he assured me my parts would be ready when I needed them and so far he  has let me down. If I order a kit from zenith and they tell me it will be ready  on a certain date I would bet you it would be. With William he just tells you  what you need to hear to get your money and if you can't tell yes I am  pissed.



  

 In a message dated 2/8/2007 7:44:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net writes:

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		     Look guys and gals,

    

   Don't you think you are being a little    hard on the guy.  What follows is not a rant or tirade, but a few    suggestions.  Everyone is welcome to hit the delete key if they    want.

    

   William has been nothing but helpful to    hundreds of folks at no cost.  He has made it possible for most of us to    be able to have our own plane and to still be safe about it for a    reasonable cost.  His track record is second to none and for at    least half the money of comparable engines.

    

   He also does not run and hide when    something ends up being a problem.  He posts every bit of research and    gives the best solution from a money, safety and experience    perspective.

    

   Sure he has more work than he can handle,    but didn't you know that going in?

    

   Just take a look at the turnout he always    gets and the crowds that are being converted to Corvair Flyers.  If he    wants to keep his business small and keep from growing into a nameless face of    a company that's fine with me.  He    may even still be around 10 years from now because of it.

    

   Just order your parts well in advance or    build them yourself.  This world we live in has conditioned us to expect    everything now, but I think some things are worth the wait.

    

   I will see you at the airport in my plane    someday thanks to William Wynne, the EAA, a few local builders and    Zenith.  These are the folks I have learned to trust.

    

   Kindest Regards,

   Matt Stecher in Katy, TX

   XL  Corvair

	


 

  

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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

Does any one have the specs. and process  details for building and testing the dual points distributor?

  

 Raymond Julian

 Kettle River, MN

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davgray(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

If anybody is unhappy with what WW is offering with respect to products or  timing then it would make sense to ask for a refund and go your separate  way.  We will all be happier.

  

 Gary Ray

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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

Gary,

  

 how about you buy my 1/2 completed FWF and then work with William  to get the other 1/2 of your parts.

  

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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

Would I have had this problem with Lycoming? The higher price is well worth  the piece of mind. Half my parts won't get me in the air no matter how much I  saved.

  

  

  

 In a message dated 2/8/2007 9:49:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  davgray(at)sbcglobal.net writes:

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		     If anybody is unhappy with what WW is offering with respect to products    or timing then it would make sense to ask for a refund and go your separate    way.  We will all be happier.

    

   Gary Ray

	


 

  

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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

I don"t know  if this will help ,but I'am going through  the samething with 

my eng. builder.It's enough to make you makeyou want to kill, What can you 

do, they got your money.. I think that none of them have a nodding 

acqaintance with the truth. It's part of there job description. What a 

joke....Just send more   money 

joe 601 XL P.S. been on the two yard line for 3 mo....

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badbob

Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Posts: 8
Location: Willamina, Oregon

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: NEED TO FINISH MY PLANE William Wynne problems

I ordered the engine manual and it didn't take long  to arrive. I ordered one of his (William  Wynne)DVD's and received the wrong one by mistake. I was told to  mail it back. I received the new one with a $5.00 bill inside to cover the  return postage on the first one! Does that sound like a liar and a crook to you?  A friend of mine sent his Piper engine to a certified rebuild shop.....and it  took MONTHS to get it back! 

 I for one can wait for things to arrive. I am sorry  for those that can't. Perhaps airplanes aren't a good hobby for those. It can  take months to get a quick built from Vans, and he gets a chunk of your money up  front also.

  

 Just my thoughts,

 Bob from Oregon

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