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cjensen(at)dts9000.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

What's the current concensus on starters?  BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque

in-line, or some such)?  I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was

trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an

IO-540?



Chuck Jensen

klwerner(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Go B&C

  

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rocketbob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

The B&C is a Hitachi starter with a different nose piece and pinion gear, so its easy to get parts for it locally if you ever have to rebuild it.  It is simpler mechanically compared to the inline sky-tec.  The inline sky-tec is a good starter, a friend of mine has one and you never see him do what I call the 'sky-tec dance' where the starter has to be bumped to get over the first compression stroke, as is common with the PM starter-equipped airplanes.  I am a proponent of not having a seperate starter contactor, and using only the starter solenoid to engage the starter like every car made in the last 40 years.  Yes you do have a fat hot wire all the time but so what, if its supported correctly it is unlikely to ever fail.  Less resistance this way, lighter, and less complicated. 



Regards,

Bob Japundza

RV-6 flying F1 under const.



On 2/22/07, Chuck Jensen <cjensen(at)dts9000.com (cjensen(at)dts9000.com) > wrote:[quote]--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" < cjensen(at)dts9000.com (cjensen(at)dts9000.com)>

What's the current concensus on starters?  BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque

in-line, or some such)?  I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was

trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an  [quote][b]

rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

I actually returned my Skytec LS PM starter that came with my engine

for the newer Skytec NL (hi torque in line) model.  Considering that

Skytec is now the Lycoming OEM and Skytec's most expensive Lycoming

model is about $50 less than B&C's cheapest, it was an easy decision for

me.  Of course I'm not flying yet but people that are flying it seem to

be happy.



Michael Sausen

-10 #352 Limbo

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panamared5(at)brier.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Recommend B&C.  SkyTec never worked for me.



Bob

jrdial(at)hal-pc.org
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

I have a very poor customer service problem going with Sky-Tec

right now and would definitely go with B&C. If you want the details

contact me off list or phone. 512-914-6028.

	If you want a Sky-Tec type starter contact Air-Tec and get the

same thing at half the price.

	www.airtecinc.us

	Dick Dial

	N89DD



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cjensen(at)dts9000.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Thanks for all the ideas.  I was leaning toward BNC and the comments

were enough to tip me over....a few dollars more, but seems to be

another example of you-get-what-you-pay-for.



Chuck Jensen

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klwerner(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

BTW: The company is called B  & C, not BNC. I have never heard a complaint against them, but not  so with SkyTec (which may have dealt with their issues by now...).

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mattreeves(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

My vote is for SkyTec.  I had a problem a few years ago with my starter.  Rich, the manager, FedEx'd me a new starter the next day - at his expense!!!!  And I had no idea how old my starter was as it was on my engine when I bought it.

   

  Service like that gets my vote for life.  I won't ever look anywhere else, even if I saved weight.  New starter is lighter and more reliable than any starter I've ever had in 25 years!

   

  SkyTec - you can't go wrong!

   

  Matt



Chuck Jensen <cjensen(at)dts9000.com> wrote:

  [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" 

What's the current concensus on starters? BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque

in-line, or some such)? I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was

trying  [quote][b]

Bill Schlatterer

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 195

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Chuck, don't know but I been told(?) that some of the B&C units leave no

clearance to the cowl on some applications.  Just told you all I know.



Bill S

7a ark

engine 



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bobbyhester(at)charter.ne
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

I've been using my Sky-Tec inline for 3 hrs now and it is working great 



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Bill Schlatterer wrote:



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Chuck, don't know but I been told(?) that some of the B&C units leave no

clearance to the cowl on some applications.  Just told you all I know.



Bill S

7a ark

engine 



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PittsS1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

just a note ...

  

 i have had complete B n C electrical systems on 3 different airplanes. they  all have been trouble free.

  

 the support bill bainbridge provides is outstanding.

  

 i vote for B n C

  

         mike



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Hopperdhh(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Will the B&C inline clear the FAB air duct on my RV-7A with 200 HP injected angle valve engine?

  

 I have the Skytec PM starter now and it has workied fine for over 2 years now except for a whump sometimes.  You guys got me worried.

  

 Dan Hopper

 RV-7A



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Gary.A.Sobek

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 217
Location: SoCAL USA

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

I have been using SkyTec PM starter for the past 10 years. Replaced one 

solenoid in that time.  Service with them has been great. 1,980.4 hobbs 

hours when I put the airplane away on Saturday.



I have a B & C alternator and voltage regulator.  Service has been 

excellent.



Both SkyTec and B & C make good starters.   You should get good service from 

both.



An old wise man once told me "You only get what you pay for."



IMHO.  You will not go wrong with either of the two starters on any of the 

Lycoming engines that RVs use.

Gary A. Sobek

"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,

1,980 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA



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shirleyh

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

My Superior O360 was delivered with a Skytech lightweight starter. At around 10 hours of operation, I noticed chipped teeth on the ring gear. A couple of starts later it jammed completely. Replaced the ring gear, had engineer check everything... next two starts chipped the new ring gear.



Installed borrowed B&C and returned original starter to Skytech. Now over 50 hours, and 7 months later, no contact from Skytech and the old B&C has never missed a beat. YMMV



Shirley in Perth, Western Australia

RV6

khorton01(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

On 22 Feb 2007, at 21:16, Hopperdhh(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Will the B&C inline clear the FAB air duct on my RV-7A with 200 HP  

 injected angle valve engine?




	


The B&C starter does not clear the induction air duct for the front  

mounted servo.  It may be possible modify the fibreglas duct to fit  

around the B&C starter.



Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)

Ottawa, Canada

http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8

rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a

comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style.  While a lot

of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone

that has had a problem with the SW.



Michael

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Hopperdhh(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

Michael,



That's true.  But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly 

replace it with one of the wound rotor starters.  I have already been told in 

this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB 

induction box.  Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline 

starter fit the induction box without modification?



Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck.  You know there are no simple 

answers!



Thanks,



Dan Hopper

RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now





In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, 

rvbuilder(at)sausen.net writes:


<rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>



  Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a

comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style.  While a lot

of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone

that has had a problem with the SW.



Michael

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jrdial(at)hal-pc.org
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

If I were you I would call B&C and ask them. They are an

excellent company with a good product and good service.



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jrdial(at)hal-pc.org
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: Starter: BNC or SkyTec

I have and they would not stand behind the product so I bought

and Air-Tec that works just fine.

	Dick



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