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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Hi all. I bought a '95 Firestar II (7 ribs) and got it a few weeks ago. I was practicing taxi and had moved up to crow hops when a gust lifted my left wing and forced me to "firewall the throttle".

Well, I had to remember all I was told and to 'fly the plane to the runway'. Another thing... banking in a turn with only a lap belt is a sobering experience. I should mention here that I am severly handicapped as I am a Private Pilot Wink . Well I landed in a cross wind with out much incident ... the same with 6 other subsequent flights. However, that 7th flight...

I was wearing Nike tennis shoes with a slightly concave heel. Well, on my last landing, my left foot got caught on the sheet metal and there I was with full left rudder deflection just as the plane settled on the runway during landing.... My first ground loop Sad .

Well, the damage is rather light. No structural but I damaged the windshield when I was trying to free my foot. The end of my aileron had fabric abrased (needs repair) and the tailwheel has has slid a bit off its axel.

Has anybody else come across this type of problem? I plan to rivet a sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea?

My kindest regards to all,

Boatner


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Boatner, I have size 15 feet and the footwell of a Mk3 is, well, challenging. On my first flights I managed to get caught up in the instrument wiring and pull it loose from it's mounting on the back of the panel. I would never have thought it possible, but I did it somehow. Fortunately it was only a brief panic, I recovered to prang the main gear and had a nice visit with Mr. Press later that evening. For those of us who buy our Kolbs, rather than building, the process of learning and adapting to the plane and vice versa is just part of the little planes charm.

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Hi all. I bought a '95 Firestar II (7 ribs) and got it a few weeks ago. I was practicing taxi and had moved up to crow hops when a gust lifted my left wing and forced me to "firewall the throttle".

Well, I had to remember all I was told and to 'fly the plane to the runway'. Another thing... banking in a turn with only a lap belt is a sobering experience. I should mention here that I am severly handicapped as I am a Private Pilot Wink . Well I landed in a cross wind with out much incident ... the same with 6 other subsequent flights. However, that 7th flight...

I was wearing Nike tennis shoes with a slightly concave heel. Well, on my last landing, my left foot got caught on the sheet metal and there I was with full left rudder deflection just as the plane settled on the runway during landing.... My first ground loop Sad .

Well, the damage is rather light. No structural but I damaged the windshield when I was trying to free my foot. The end of my aileron had fabric abrased (needs repair) and the tailwheel has has slid a bit off its axel.

Has anybody else come across this type of problem? I plan to rivet a sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea?

My kindest regards to all,

Boatner


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

I have 9 1/2 EEEEEEs...and I have to fly kinda toe-in on landings else I squash the heel brakes on FireFly.
regards,
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

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I plan to rivet a sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea?


Boatner,

Yes, that is a good idea. I did it to my FireStar. Makes for smoother sliding of the shoe heel.

Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Wow ! ! ! Shows one thing for sure - you guys sure have good under-standing. Smile Do not Archive.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

It took me a while but I finally got it Larry.... I really laughed out loud. By the way, my feet are size 13 so, yes, I believe I also have good "under-standing".

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Smile Sizes 15, 9EEEEEEEEEEE's, 13's..........my size 12's are humbled in
you'alls company. Sighhhh........... Do not Archive.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

What's all this talk about Bigfoot? This is the Kolb list --do not archive

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 Smile  Sizes 15, 9EEEEEEEEEEE's, 13's..........my size 12's are humbled in you'alls company.  Sighhhh...........     Do not Archive.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

What's this ?? Rumbling from the masses ?? Smile   Do not Archive.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Hey Big Lar,
He just NOT "gellin"... He he he

Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / Gellin like an Icecube
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[quote="biglar"]What's this ?? Rumbling from the masses ?? Smile � Do not Archive.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Larry they are just talking about shoes!

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Smile Sizes 15, 9EEEEEEEEEEE's, 13's..........my size 12's are humbled in
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Well, yah, what did you think we were talking about ??   Do not Archive.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

rbhowell wrote:

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Hi all. I bought a '95 Firestar II (7 ribs) and got it a few weeks ago. I was practicing taxi and had moved up to crow hops when a gust lifted my left wing and forced me to "firewall the throttle".

Well, I had to remember all I was told and to 'fly the plane to the runway'. Another thing... banking in a turn with only a lap belt is a sobering experience. I should mention here that I am severly handicapped as I am a Private Pilot Wink . Well I landed in a cross wind with out much incident ... the same with 6 other subsequent flights. However, that 7th flight...

I was wearing Nike tennis shoes with a slightly concave heel. Well, on my last landing, my left foot got caught on the sheet metal and there I was with full left rudder deflection just as the plane settled on the runway during landing.... My first ground loop Sad .

Well, the damage is rather light. No structural but I damaged the windshield when I was trying to free my foot. The end of my aileron had fabric abrased (needs repair) and the tailwheel has has slid a bit off its axel.

Has anybody else come across this type of problem? I plan to rivet a sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea?

My kindest regards to all,

Boatner

Most guys that have heel brakes find it necessary to extend the floor

pan forward for exactly the reason you discovered the hard way. Any
place you can get lexan will be fine as far as replacement is concerned
for your windshield.

Terry - FireFly #95


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

At least you kept the M in masses --do not archive

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[quote]What's this ?? Rumbling from the masses ??    Smile          Do not Archive.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Boatner, Just in case, cut your Lexan with an abrasive wheel, not a saw. I like the diamond wheels offered by Harbor Freight. When they're on sale, and that price recently doubled, they're still half the price of the large Dremel abrasive wheels and seem to last much longer.
While you can get special drills for plastic from ACS, you can make your own by grinding a small flat on the chisel edge of the drill bit. If you try to use a regular bit, it will most likely get sucked into the material and cause a crack. I've attached a drawing that explains, I hope.

Rick

On 2/24/07, Terry <tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net (tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net)> wrote:[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net (tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net)>

rbhowell wrote:

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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "rbhowell" < bhowell(at)teamft.com (bhowell(at)teamft.com)>

Hi all. I bought a '95 Firestar II (7 ribs) and got it a few weeks ago. I was practicing taxi and had moved up to crow hops when a gust lifted my left wing and forced me to "firewall the throttle".

Well, I had to remember all I was told and to 'fly the plane to the runway'. Another thing... banking in a turn with only a lap belt is a sobering experience. I should mention here that I am severly handicapped as I am a Private Pilot Wink . Well I landed in a cross wind with out much incident ... the same with 6 other subsequent flights. However, that 7th flight...

I was wearing Nike tennis shoes with a slightly concave heel. Well, on my last landing, my left foot got caught on the sheet metal and there I was with full left rudder deflection just as the plane settled on the runway during landing.... My first ground loop Sad .

Well, the damage is rather light. No structural but I damaged the windshield when I was trying to free my foot. The end of my aileron had fabric abrased (needs repair) and the tailwheel has has slid a bit off its axel.

Has anybody else come across this type of problem? I plan to rivet a sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea?

My kindest regards to all,

Boatner

Most guys that have heel brakes find it necessary to extend the floor

pan forward for exactly the reason you discovered the hard way. Any
place you can get lexan will be fine as far as replacement is concerned
for your windshield.
when you live at the airport.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Rick,

I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to cut Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I also have a Dremel.

Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to drill holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep from buying several sheets is appreciated!!!!

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Boatner, I use a Dremel, but a die grinder should work just fine, too. I like the smaller diameter cut off wheels, they make a nicer inside radius than bigger wheels do.
As for the drills, the idea is to grind a small flat to make the drill scrape away the material rather than cut it away. This is a standard prep for drilling any soft material like plastic, brass or lead. It takes just a second to do with a bench grinder, but you could do it with a Dremel, too. All you need is a small flat to keep the drill from being sucked into the material without actually cutting which will cause a star crack every time.

Rick

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Rick,

I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to cut Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I also have a Dremel.

Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to drill holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep from buying several sheets is appreciated!!!!

Thanks,

Boatner




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

Guys

If you are using .0625 lexan, it cuts just fine with a set of
straight jaw tin shears.. the bigger the better.. I use a std bench
grinder to taper and deburr.. Works for me... Herb
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Rick,

I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to
cut Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I
also have a Dremel.

Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to
drill holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep
from buying several sheets is appreciated!!!!

Thanks,

Boatner




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

All I've ever used to cut lexan is a pair of tin snips, then smooth the
edges with a small Stanley Sur-form plane. The small curved one works very
well. Set it up to cut on the pull stroke. Lexan is very tough and very
different from plexiglass, which will crack at a hard look.

For a drill bit, if you have the knowledge and skill, grind your
own..........I bought a special bit from Aircraft Spruce, but I'd imagine
the local Ace Hardware and Aircraft Supply would either have one, or could
order one for you. Lar.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Reply with quote

| All I've ever used to cut lexan is a pair of tin snips,

|
| For a drill bit, if you have the knowledge and skill, grind your
| own..........I bought a special bit from Aircraft Spruce,
Lar.

Larry:

I also have always cut Lexan with aviation sheet metal snips, and hand
sand the edges nice and smooth as I can, before I get tired and go do
something else.

Unlike a lot of you all, I us "normal" HS drill bits, 1/8" for 1/8"
pop rivets, and 3/16" for No 10 screws.

All the above works well for me, but am willing to try anything that
will make the job easier and produce better quality work.

In about a week I will start replacing all the Lexan in my mkIII, do
some more stuff that has been put on the waiting list for the last 6
years, then mount the new 912ULS. The wings are off the aircraft and
it is ready to come home for the first time in six years. By bringing
it home, putting it into my basement (shoe box), I can get a lot more
work done in a shorter period of time, since all my machines and tools
are at home and not at the airstrip. Plus I can work at night and
whenever I feel like it. No lights at the airstrip, and the front of
the hanger is open. Does not make for a friendly work environment.

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