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d-m-hague(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: Aileron rolls in a Firestar - It cannot be done?

At 04:46 PM 3/12/2007, jam-n wrote:

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well, the procedure to roll a c-150 or a c-172 is to add power, lower

nose and roll... maybe toss is a bit rudder. and even then it is a

wallowed out roll at best. all the time trying to not overspeed nor over

stress...



so given the limited envelope of an ultralight such as a firestar... how

could it be done? and would it not be just a wallow through?


	


Way back when I was young and stupid I allegedly did loops and rolls in 

Cessnas and Pipers (and scared the hell out of myself a few times).  Only 

tried to roll my T-Craft once, the roll rate was so slow it didn't feel 

safe (as opposed to snap rolls which it did nicely until I started thinking 

about the age of the structure...).



I don't know about a Kolb, what's the roll rate like?  (I haven't flown 

mine yet.)



                                 -Dana

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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: Aileron rolls in a Firestar - It cannot be done?

At 07:03 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote:

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Hello Jim,

Dennis will not have to respond. Can not be done.

You had better take care of that Mark III.

Jack D. do not archive


	




Is this the same "Jack Day" that ran a red light in Breman

Georgia in his ultralight.

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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Aileron rolls in a Firestar - It cannot be done?

Yes it is possum # 1, I am not sure what number I am,

but I am a possum. I think you like to call me jack danials. Hello Stan. Do 

not archive. !!!!

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Ed in JXN

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: Aileron rolls in a Firestar - It cannot be done?

Don't tell Duane Cole a T-Cart won't roll!  (He did an aerobatic routine for 

decades with a clipped-wing version.)



'Tis a poor workman who blames his tools.'  -  Unk.



Ed in JXN

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beauford(at)tampabay.rr.c
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: Aileron rolls in a Firestar - It cannot be done?

Beauford once  (1964) had the honor of flying Mr. Duane Cole  in a Tri-Pacer 

back from Clinton, Iowa to a small airstrip in Illinois to pick up his 

famous clip-wing T-craft....( with his name upside down on the side of the 

fuselage...)   I should have had him autograph my logbook...  By the way, 

those T-craft did not have a flat-bottom ClarkY wing on 'em...  They were 

very efficient for their horsepower... and Brother Chmielewski is right... 

that thing rolled like hell....

Fer what it's worth...

Elderly Beauford of Brandon

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: Aileron rolls in a Firestar - It cannot be done?

At 01:36 PM 3/13/2007, jim wrote:

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Legaly, if experimental you need to be above 5000 agl and wear an approved 

parachute.


	


1500', not 5000 (per FAR 91.303(e).  Also you aren't legally required to 

wear a parachute if flying solo.



                                 -Dana



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