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jimlc(at)att.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: Off topic Garbled e-mail from 84KF (me)

Steve,

Thanks for thinking of us email reading members.  The Kitfox List was an

email list years before it was moved to Matronics.  I even hosted the list

on the now extinct Colorado Super Net for quite a while.  I think you would

be very surprised to learn how many of us read postings via email.  It would

be interesting to know.



There are reasons for this.  The Kitfox list is only a part of my life.  I

read email from many sources.  I even belong to another flying list.  I also

actively receive email from five addresses currently.  My email client is

programmed to check each of these every ten minutes when I am at my

computer.  I do a lot of other work at my computer and often welcome a break

when email arrives.  I then know very quickly when an email is posted

without going to each address.  I also have a very effective spam checker

that automatically deletes most of the spam I receive even if it comes from

a mailing list as often happens.  The posting I am replying to came through

with no garbage and I for one do appreciate that.



I will try to get along with whatever comes my way, but I do appreciate it

when it is clean.  As a further thought, the three clients I have used are

very mainstream and are used on most PCs except for those who use the site

provided by their service provider such as AOL.  I have no idea if they see

the garbage.  I suspect the garbage we are speaking of appears on ALL email

clients.  If not, I stand to be corrected by someone more knowledgeable.  I

can always go to the Matronics site if I think it is worth the extra

trouble.  Otherwise I guess that is what the delete key is for.  I intend to

not beat this horse further and I want to remain a friend.



Jim Crowder



DO NOT ARCHIVE



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rexinator(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: Off topic Garbled e-mail from 84KF (me)

I don't think it has been mentioned that the main problem is the 

"quotation marks" and some other special charadcters when pasted from an 

HTML source. If you only read messages on the forum you may not 

understand the complaint. They are not being displayed correctly and 

they look like this: ‘‘. It's distracting when you try to read the 

quoted text.



Example:

In ‘‘experimental certificate,’’ the word 

‘‘experimental’’ indicates that there is no known standard for 

the design or production of the aircraft.



I think it's worth noting that the forum is much slower for some dialup 

users and some of us don't have the option of high speed (unless we go 

$atellite). I live in a rural area and dialup never gets faster than 

maybe 28Kbps. It's just the nature of the phone service out in the 

boonies until fiber optics replaces all copper wires. Additionally plain 

text email naturally eliminates virus problems and you can choose to 

reject attachments. Attachments can really slow down your email 

downloads with rural service. That can be a significant consideration.

My point is; dialup and the simplicity/security of the standard email 

list is preferable and even necessary to some of us. The option of the 

forum improves the experience for those who want the bells and whistles, 

but we all want the text to be clear as intended.



Rexinator

Colorado

BTW, I recently upgraded to DSL with a personal wireless network so I'm 

able to enjoy the forum also. I just know how bad it can be and I still 

prefer to get my kitfox messages as email.

do not archive



84KF wrote:



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I'm sorry that some e-mail clients do not reproduce some postings in the original format as written. If there is a problem with reading postings using e-mail as an elected source, (signed up for it..) then go right to the source...

http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=83b6acbe5602af72d6c023eab4688518

The ability to accent and highlight statements is provided here, but when these benefits are used, it does mess up e-mails.



I will (again) try to remember that not all use the 'site', but I see using the 'site' as the best source..., as originally intended..



Steve

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MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: Off topic Garbled e-mail from 84KF (me)

Steve sez:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I will (again) try to remember that not all use the 'site', but I 

see using the 'site' as the best source..., as originally intended..


	


Your historical sense is off considerably.  This had been an e-mail 

list for a decade before the web-based features that Matronics offers 

came on-line.  As Jim Crowder mentioned, many subscribers do take 

advantage of the web site features but others find them considerably 

less convenient than plain old e-mail and seldom use them.



There have been discussions in the past over postings that are too 

much trouble to read and many members have come up with a simple and 

effective solution--delete them without reading them.  Presumably, 

the point of posting a message is to communicate your ideas to a 

large group of people, so it makes sense to be as inclusive as 

possible when doing so, doesn't it?  Using plain text when posting is 

a simple way to accomplish that objective.



Mike

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