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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

King County Sherriff’s aviation division drove a fuel truck into the wing of 4186B last week.   It damaged the truck. The wing of the plane appears to be damaged structurally all the way to the wing root as well as the control linkages and possibly pullies in the fuselage (they ran into the aileron from behind). I believe it is a clear total.  King County is self insured.   When (if) I get the insurance (compensation) I will be looking for another Twin Commander.  

   

It won’t be for a while, I suspect. But sometime this summer I think the thing to do will be a plane Cleveland brakes and a good autopilot already certified, and props at least some distance from inspection.   I suspect that would be a 680 or 560F.  My budget would be somewhere south of 100k.  Any candidates that folks could recommend would be greatly appreciated.  

   

I’ve enjoyed flying the 520 . Flying patrols in it was fabulous (a *big* plane at 500ft above the San Juans, occasionally having to turn those tight figure eights to inspect something. It doesn’t get much better).  As a cross country machine it was just plain (or plane?) delight.  It always had plenty of power, and handled well., and after a few fixes to the undercarriage, it taxied well.  The best part was TC, who was always ready to help, either with parts or the necessary info, to keep ‘em flying.  

   

Oh well…  

   

             Bruce Campbell  

             AC52    N4186B  

   

   

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bertberry1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

Hey Bruce, 

  

 Sorry for your lose, it looks like N4186B cheated death once before in Florida.  Would you happen to have any photos that you could share with us?

  

 Thanks,

  

 Bert

  

  

  

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King County Sherriffâ€™s aviation division drove a fuel truck into the wing of 4186B last week.   It damaged the truck. The wing of the plane appears to be damaged structurally all the way to the wing root as well as the control linkages and possibly pullies in the fuselage (they ran into the aileron from behind). I believe it is a clear total.  King County is self insured.   When (if) I get the insurance (compensation) I will be looking for another Twin Commander. 

  

It wonâ€™t be for a while, I suspect. But sometime this summer I think the thing to do will be a plane Cleveland brakes and a good autopilot already certified, and props at least some distance from inspection.   I suspect that would be a 680 or 560F.  My budget would be somewhere south of 100k.  Any candidates that folks could recommend would be greatly appreciated. 

  

Iâ€™ve enjoyed flying the 520 . Flying patrols in it was fabulous (a *big* plane at 500ft above the San Juans, occasionally having to turn those tight figure eights to inspect something. It doesnâ€™t get much better).  As a cross country machine it was just plain (or plane?) delight.  It always had plenty of power, and handled well., and after a few fixes to the undercarriage, it taxied well.  The best part was TC, who was always ready to help, either with parts or the necessary info, to keep â€˜em flying. 

  

Oh wellâ€¦ 

  

             Bruce Campbell 

             AC52    N4186B 

  

 

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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

I have pictures, need to wait until tomorrow as they are in the camera, which is elsewhere.  

I know the plane was down on its nose once.Â  We fixed it beautifully after noting a not-so-effective repair before.Â    

   

Â Â Â Â Â Â  Bruce   

       

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BertBerry1

 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:14 AM

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Hey Bruce,   

    

   

    

Sorry for your lose, it looks like N4186B cheated death once before in Florida.  Would you happen to have any photos that you could share with us?  

    

   

    

Thanks,  

    

   

    

Bert  

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

In a message dated 03/21/07 11:05:47 Central Daylight Time, brcamp(at)windows.microsoft.com writes:  

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King County Sherriffâ€™s aviation division drove a fuel truck into the wing of 4186B last week.   It damaged the truck. The wing of the plane appears to be damaged structurally all the way to the wing root as well as the control linkages and possibly pullies in the fuselage (they ran into the aileron from behind). I believe it is a clear total.  King County is self insured.   When (if) I get the insurance (compensation) I will be looking for another Twin Commander.  

   

It wonâ€™t be for a while, I suspect. But sometime this summer I think the thing to do will be a plane Cleveland brakes and a good autopilot already certified, and props at least some distance from inspection.   I suspect that would be a 680 or 560F.  My budget would be somewhere south of 100k.  Any candidates that folks could recommend would be greatly appreciated.  

   

Iâ€™ve enjoyed flying the 520 . Flying patrols in it was fabulous (a *big* plane at 500ft above the San Juans, occasionally having to turn those tight figure eights to inspect something. It doesnâ€™t get much better).  As a cross country machine it was just plain (or plane?) delight.  It always had plenty of power, and handled well., and after a few fixes to the undercarriage, it taxied well.  The best part was TC, who was always ready to help, either with parts or the necessary info, to keep â€˜em flying.  

   

Oh wellâ€¦  

   

             Bruce Campbell  

             AC52    N4186B  

   

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dongirod

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

Bruce;

  

 Sorry to hear about your Commander, that is almost  like a family member.  The good news, is you can replace it.

  

 Don

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

Hi Bruce,

  

 I'm so sorry to hear the new on 4186B. The fuel  truck driver should be strung up.

  

 For my database though, would you be kind enough  to let me know the date this happened?

  

 Sincere Best Regards,

 Barry

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John Vormbaum

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Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

Bruce,

  

 THAT SUCKS! I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I  know I would be devastated if something like that happened to my airplane. I  hope you stay in the Commander family and find another fine airplane to  fly.

  

 As morbid as it sounds, I too would like to see  photos.

  

 Best regards,

  

 /John

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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

15th Mar 2007.  

   

Â Â Â  Bruce   

       

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman

 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:54 AM

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Hi Bruce,  

    

   

    

I'm so sorry to hear the new on 4186B. The fuel truck driver should be strung up.  

    

   

    

For my database though, would you be kind enough to let me know the date this happened?  

    

   

    

Sincere Best Regards,  

    

Barry  

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From: Bruce Campbell (brcamp(at)windows.microsoft.com)   

    

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:35 PM  

    

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I have pictures, need to wait until tomorrow as they are in the camera, which is elsewhere.  

I know the plane was down on its nose once.  We fixed it beautifully after noting a not-so-effective repair before.    

   

       Bruce   

       

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 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:14 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Commander-List: The Death of N4186B  

  

  

     

Hey Bruce,   

    

   

    

Sorry for your lose, it looks like N4186B cheated death once before in Florida.  Would you happen to have any photos that you could share with us?  

    

   

    

Thanks,  

    

   

    

Bert  

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

In a message dated 03/21/07 11:05:47 Central Daylight Time, brcamp(at)windows.microsoft.com writes:  

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King County Sherriffâ€™s aviation division drove a fuel truck into the wing of 4186B last week.   It damaged the truck. The wing of the plane appears to be damaged structurally all the way to the wing root as well as the control linkages and possibly pullies in the fuselage (they ran into the aileron from behind). I believe it is a clear total.  King County is self insured.   When (if) I get the insurance (compensation) I will be looking for another Twin Commander.  

   

It wonâ€™t be for a while, I suspect. But sometime this summer I think the thing to do will be a plane Cleveland brakes and a good autopilot already certified, and props at least some distance from inspection.   I suspect that would be a 680 or 560F.  My budget would be somewhere south of 100k.  Any candidates that folks could recommend would be greatly appreciated.  

   

Iâ€™ve enjoyed flying the 520 . Flying patrols in it was fabulous (a *big* plane at 500ft above the San Juans, occasionally having to turn those tight figure eights to inspect something. It doesnâ€™t get much better).  As a cross country machine it was just plain (or plane?) delight.  It always had plenty of power, and handled well., and after a few fixes to the undercarriage, it taxied well.  The best part was TC, who was always ready to help, either with parts or the necessary info, to keep â€˜em flying.  

   

Oh wellâ€¦  

   

             Bruce Campbell  

             AC52    N4186B  

   

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Skyhawkc-172

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: The Death of N4186B

Bruce,

  

 Sorry to here your terrible news, was the ramp guy drinking? or maybe he didn't know where there is an empinage there is likely a wing attached to it.  Wonder if N55BW was ever fixed...

  

 Brent - N224HA

  

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Hi Bruce,

  

 

  

I'm so sorry to hear the new on 4186B. The fuel truck driver should be strung up.

  

 

  

For my database though, would you be kind enough to let me know the date this happened?

  

 

  

Sincere Best Regards,

  

Barry

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: The Death of N4186B

In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:05:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brcamp(at)windows.microsoft.com writes:

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